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Posted: Mon 3rd Jul 2006 02:18 am
by 711
AmeriSkunk wrote:
That's the problem with the written word.... unless you're bright enough you can't put any emphasis or infliction into sentences like this.... you obviously haven't.

Imagine everything you write to be ambiguous, that way you can't be accused of anything.
I agree 100% because you never know someones else's attitude at the moment in a forum, now I only answer the questions that people ask, because I too try to be funny but people just dont get it, or think something else was meant.

711 I do see the funny side to that "proverbial"(pun intended) mistake, but I was so high that I didnt catch it. Come on Gonzo, admit that it was a little funny :)

here's a link to a movie about Amsterdam's squatters. www.freeamsterdamthemovie.com
I appreciate that you at least see what I was trying to say. Thanks for that. (Here is another point where intonation would help. I am trying to express sincere gratitude, while not passing any judgement, or being at all sarcastic)

I guess I just forgot the smiley at the end of the post. I think that would have helped some. Sorry if I offended you, I guess I was a little to stoned to realize that could be offensive.

Posted: Mon 3rd Jul 2006 03:01 am
by AmeriSkunk
you didn't offend me I was just saying that we all get high and make mistakes typing and corrections arent needed, but it was funny.

Posted: Mon 3rd Jul 2006 04:52 am
by 711
AmeriSkunk wrote:you didn't offend me I was just saying that we all get high and make mistakes typing and corrections arent needed, but it was funny.
I'm glad to hear that, but it was more aimed at gonzo, who seemed genuinely upset at my comment, which I feel bad for.

Re: My Peyote Experience

Posted: Tue 4th Jul 2006 06:55 pm
by Dredd
PeyoteUK.com wrote:I prepared two 3.5cm peyote cactus ... leaving as much pulp as possible on the peyote button.
The two peyote buttons were sliced in sections which formed discs around 0.3mm thick.
That's the problem with buying peyote cactus, at least all the ones I've ever seen on sale - they're too small to be of much use, and take a LONG time to get bigger.

Even those 3.5cm buttons take a couple of years to grow, and to really experience mescaline you'll need as many (expensive) small buttons as mentioned in the ad/post, or a fatter, older cactus that has the dimensions of a small turnip. I think a peyote cactus takes five to seven years to reach its psychedelic prime.

This doesn't make them a very cost-effective plant for smartshops to sell. You can find living cactuses (yes, 'cactuses', it's octopuses' too!) with about the same 3.5cm diameter, often for 50 to 100 euro. If they're being straight with you, the smartshop owners will admit that you'll have to grow these buttons for many more years if you want to get a real effect from them.

You might be able find fully mature peyote in Amsterdam, but the price will probably reflect the years they've been growing.

I've been told that peyote buttons can be grown faster by grafting them onto san pedro cactuses, which are vaguely psychedelic themselves (and are incredibly vile to consume). I don't know if the potency of the peyote is reduced in this way.

And the post/ad's mention of a stomach full of beer is a bit odd. Not what I'd call ideal preparation for a psychedelic experience.

Maybe it's meant as a reference to PJ O'Rourke (who could once almost have passed as a right wing version of the great Doctor Thompson, but is now, sadly, a shrivelled apologist hack).

He wrote something about being out of his face on mesclaine and Anchor Steam beer, watching "the nine-assed peyote demon taking a shit in my open skull", or words to that effect...

EDIT - close, but no banana. My memory...

"As for insights, try yage and psilocybin mushrooms mixed with mescaline and Anchor steam beer.
Gautama Buddha his own bad self comes over to your house and writes out the Eightfold Path in lipstick on your bathroom mirror.
We had drugs that would give you immortal life for up to thirty-six hours.

And what about the time the nine-assed peyote demon peeled the top of my head like an orange and vomited the Encyclopaedia Britannica into my empty skull?
That's what we meant when we said high in the old days."

-- P.J. O'Rourke

Posted: Tue 4th Jul 2006 10:18 pm
by mazdog
I think a peyote cactus takes five to seven years to reach its psychedelic prime.
yep, most of the ones i've ever seen for sale were a year maybe two old!

Posted: Tue 4th Jul 2006 10:55 pm
by AmeriSkunk
mazdog wrote:
I think a peyote cactus takes five to seven years to reach its psychedelic prime.
yep, most of the ones i've ever seen for sale were a year maybe two old!
I heard from an old hippy guy I used to score weed from, and other places that the older the peyote is, the more mescaline it contains. I have heard this from numerous places and I have a pic of a 35 year old peyote cactus that was eaten by a church that used peyote in rituals, I dont have any way to upload it, but it has thick white spines on it because it was so old. I have seen them for sale in pics at a convention in Amsterdam not as big but clearly over 10yo.

I was just looking in my closet and I found some old Datura that I had picked, has anyone else ever tripped datura, it's like mescaline in the was that its causes a dream like euphoria but it is not as mellow. Datura will explore thought of the past that you had concsciously forgotten, but subconscious rememberd. Its a very strange drug not for the inexperienced. One time I thought I was partying with a dead friend, and I had talked to her about her death, it was like I new she was dead and I was partying with her soul or something. I am not religious and cant figure out why I hallucinated this except for the power of the drug. the first time I tripped datura I made cereal with oatmeal, I put the milk in the cabinet and the oatmeal in the fridge, but not before I put ABC magnets in the box. great times that night I had a group of friends tripping with me. [/url]

Posted: Wed 5th Jul 2006 10:46 am
by DrGonzo
STEEEEEEEERRRRRRIKE 1 8)

Posted: Wed 5th Jul 2006 02:53 pm
by Lemming
Dredd wrote:Assholes like you
Most members of this forum manage to make their points without abusing other members. I think that makes this forum a particularly pleasant place to hang out and engage in constructive debate. By all means disagree with other members and criticise them if you feel the need but please refrain from insulting them.

Posted: Thu 6th Jul 2006 09:37 pm
by DrGonzo
AS

Lucidity isn't a gift or a skill.... it's the normal state of things...

Now I may have you weighed up entirely wrong, but I doubt it...... just take a step back before you post.

Now Dredd may be out of order ( but I don't think so ) but your arguments just dig you in deeper.....

Evidently you have some knowledge of the subject but you can't take the fact that sometimes (......) you may be wrong......

Jeez, unfortunately that's a fact of life that stoners have to live with......

My one and overiding piece of advice........ If someone has a different opinion to you it's just that , an opinion..... don't take it so fuckin personally.

Take a step back.... write your post then go and have a brew or a smo..... come back and read your words..... see if they reflect your true voice or if they're just reactionary........ when you make a choice click the submit button.

Please take this as it's meant...... in good faith. Life's a lot easier than the majority make it.

Posted: Thu 6th Jul 2006 11:21 pm
by DrGonzo
You see .... that's what I'm talking about......

I was giving you advice......

It's evident that you feel threatend by any form of negative reaction or disagreement......

Honestly now, you amuse me.... that post was pitiful, purely insulting... the sort of thing a prepubescent teen would spout...... I hope that Acne clears up soon by the way.

You now have my utmost pity..... really you do.

And AS.... if you are that Chilled... why don't you post like you are?

Posted: Thu 6th Jul 2006 11:42 pm
by Rez
AmeriSkunk wrote:Gonzo I am the most chilled out person anyone will ever meet
...err, no, you're not.

I am not going to get right into it all but from where I am sitting and what I have been able to desipher from the past week or so:

It all went pear-shaped on the legalisation thread and I concluded that Ameriskunk was not going to be a person I would ever like. I did'nt like the way you conducted yourself. However, you have posted some threads since then and I have grown to somewhat "appreciate" some of what yo have said and as such you have gone up in my estimations... until now... Dredd, you have come in here and pulled the trigger... you have gone and shot AS down in a way that is not normal on this forum. YES, we all have our opinions but as this is a open forum we must allow others to express their opinion too, You both have alot more to learn in how this forum works and what IS expected of you, you in particular Dredd !

There is no need for and no excuse for name-calling... even though we all can get pissed off with something we have read... but like Gonzo said, type out what you wanna post and go have a drink, snack, smoke and then read it... 50% of my posts are either heavily edited or scrapped without submitting just because I typed whilst reacting to my feelings... having "stepped back" I have to edit my posts before submitting as in the raw they are unsuitable... maybe you should try it?

I am just airing my opinion and I wholey expect a bombardment of abuse from all sides... If so, I repeat my statement and say that if you can't use this forum correctly, maybe it's not the forum for you.

I'm nothing other than a member like everybody else, I am not claiming to be any more than that. I'm just sharing how I feel.

Posted: Fri 7th Jul 2006 12:08 am
by DrGonzo
Errrrr... "Thanks for sharing Rez......!"

Now would anyone else in our help group like to share?

No?

Well that concludes this weeks session of Stoners Against Dickheads (SAD).

Tea and buscuits are available in the foyer, and don't forget Tuesdays session has been moved to 6.30.... that's 18.30 guys......

Take care and remember to contact your personal anger buddy if you need to!

:D

Posted: Fri 7th Jul 2006 12:38 am
by mazdog
:D

dammit i missed the meeting again!

since i'm here.....this forum needs an "Ignore" feature.

buh bye

Posted: Fri 7th Jul 2006 05:57 am
by AmeriSkunk
Gonzo you cant say that you werent insinuating what Dredd was saying, thats what you were doing, if you weren't I'm sorry. But you were so fuck off french fry man
Well that concludes this weeks session of Stoners Against Dickheads (SAD).
It is SAD you dont have a life or anything better to do than hassle me

Rez your point is taken but I dont feel the need to edit myself, I usually write quickly after I read something, when someone write a slanderous comment about me I naturally get pissed, and so would any of you.

I have not called someone out since the legalisation page, and I admitted I got Gonzo and DR confused and appologised, but you guys kept fucking with me, I just ignored you guys and Dredd was makin inaccurate quotes, putting words into my mouth and frankly I'm fed up with defending myself from Gonzo and Dredd you two can fuck each other for all I care. Dont post anything to me, I wont post anything to you. Thats fair, you two finished or are you going to keep on?

Posted: Fri 7th Jul 2006 07:51 am
by DrGonzo
I think yes.... after that I think I will carry on.... otherwise it'd be on your terms.....

Oh and FYI, written deformation is Liable.... :wink: