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Posted: Tue 9th Nov 2010 03:28 pm
by roker
Bakje koffie - cup of coffee
een a-a-tje - Energy drink AA pronounced (this will be difficult)...think back when you learned the alphabet..an A said A, not ay..dus A A tje
Looza - pronounced lowza not loser
mag ik de volcano gebruiken? - may I use the volcano?
Ik ben helemaal wappie geworden - I'm off my face
Here's the Dutch alphabet that I posted on channels a while back...should help some...
Here is a run down of how you pronounce the Dutch alphabet:
a (Not ay but a said quickly)
bay
say
day
ay
ef
gghay (with the throat sound)
ha
ee
yay
ka (Like the ford Ka, not k-ay, but ka)
ell
em
en
o
pay
coo
er
es
tay
oo
fay
vay
ex
I
zed
Posted: Tue 9th Nov 2010 04:29 pm
by articulomortis
Cheers! That alphabet is pretty handy! I think i'll learn a few phrases, but i'll have a translator with me anyways!
Posted: Tue 9th Nov 2010 07:15 pm
by truckerclart
in all the times ive been over,dam,utrecht,drachten and the islands ive found that when i get back to the uk it all fades away,so for the flight over i got myself inflight dutch for the iphone,obviously im not going to remember it all but i would be happier to use manners when in someones elses country,tot ziens...
Posted: Tue 9th Nov 2010 07:54 pm
by wietroker
hehe that "looza" pronunciation is good advice. It took my years until I said it right and it saved a lot of confusion too! More toking time

Posted: Wed 10th Nov 2010 09:45 am
by roker
You probably know, but you always put the noun afterwards, so 'een looza aardbei alsjeblieft'
Posted: Wed 10th Nov 2010 11:23 am
by bleak
Its worth learning a few words I think. Just the standard hello, goodbye, thankyou etc go a long way. Even if its just 1 or 2 words in Dutch, the locals do appreciate it. Often I get a big smile from them when I do.
If anything, just remember 'dank ye val' (thank you very much)
Its not totally necessary, but just a way to be friendly and show you're not just another mindless tourist.
Its true what others have said, that unless you speak perfect Dutch, the locals prefer to speak English to you. Its easier for them to speak English than to understand broken Dutch. So don't feel pressured to learn entire sentences and stuff, just start with a few token words.
Posted: Wed 10th Nov 2010 11:49 am
by roker
bleak wrote:
If anything, just remember 'dank ye val' (thank you very much)
Would that be 'dank je wel'?
anyway...
It isn't just the spoken word. Here's an example:
Would you be able to understand what this offer is without learning some words? if not, you'd miss out on a brilliant offer and a brilliant day out...The whole day in first class anywhere in Holland for two people during the Autumn (Herfst), for €35...
Posted: Wed 10th Nov 2010 11:53 am
by Boner
I can read more than I can speak but I always just put anything in dutch through a translation site like Google.
Posted: Wed 10th Nov 2010 12:12 pm
by bleak
roker wrote:
Would that be 'dank je wel'?
Yes, thats the one. Thanks for the correction (no sarcasm)
Although I was just writing it as its pronounced.
Posted: Wed 10th Nov 2010 12:32 pm
by roker
I thought you were thanking Valerie...

Posted: Wed 10th Nov 2010 12:36 pm
by Cisco
Not after hearing Sir Nials tails of 2foot woman windmilling into a crowd o blokes

i shall fill yer bong for ya at 420 as an apology

(or just to find out how weird you actually are !?) MWAH HA HA
Posted: Wed 10th Nov 2010 12:45 pm
by Marco
I have to admit I am having a bit of a war with the Dutch language and its definitely winning. The fact that everyone speaks English and that so much TV is in English is quite a big obstacle. I learned German in Austria in the 80s and it was easier to immerse myself in the language (I was a kid). And now if I try to speak it comes out with a German accent, which is not cool with the Dutch.
Technology gives us the ability to instantly read the paper back home and watch our favorite shows in English. But on some level, it is easier to learn a language if all those distractions of English are gone.
Roker, how did you learn? Classes, work, women?
Posted: Wed 10th Nov 2010 12:50 pm
by roker
Marco wrote:
Roker, how did you learn? Classes, work, women?
Well, ultimately it was for a women...I never had classes or anything. I read a lot of books, newspapers etc and simply used a dictionary on my pc to translate (Van Dale, highly recommended)...bit by bit, and after say six months of really trying to learn the light at the end of the tunnel wasn't far away. Also, my work colleagues would speak Dutch to me, I spoke it in the bars and that, and all of a sudden I no longer need to speak English whilst in Holland...
This lady was a huge motivator for me...

Posted: Wed 10th Nov 2010 01:13 pm
by roker
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Posted: Wed 10th Nov 2010 04:56 pm
by Rufus