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dconstrukt wrote:@ aa05084 thanks dude.

So Marco.... along your same lines of thinking.... you'd probably still go to Las Vegas if gambling was illegal... right?

People go to vegas to gamble, do drugs and party. Thats what vegas is all about and they try to make it the best 'vegas' possible (although drugs aren't legal, everyone can get them if you just ask around lol).

People for the most part, go to amsterdam to smoke weed. It's like a legendary "mecca" of sorts for potheads, college students etc.

Accept it and try to make it the best 'thing' possible.

just sayin'

Personally, I do think its sad if all you travel for is drugs. That is my opinion.

I live here, moved here for the opportunities this country offered me, not for the drugs. Its a nice addition, nothing more. Drugs are available in every corner of the world.

As for comparing Amsterdam, a city dating back to the 12th century, to Las Vegas, a place that was nothing but a desert 50 years ago, and today is just a shit-hole for gamblers and wannabes, well that tells me where your mind is.

As for you assertion that most tourists go to Amsterdam for the drugs, show me evidence of that. It is utter bullshit.

BTW, about 1 million Germans a year come to the Netherlands for its sun and beaches.

cool man... hey you're entitled to your opinion.... opinions are like assholes.... everyones got one.

shithole? HAHAHA have you even been to vegas?

ignorant.

you think its sad someone comes to amsterdam to smoke.... I think its sad someone like yourself comes in here (a forum for POT SMOKERS) judging ppl for their choices... must be pretty pathetic life you've got there buddy.

maybe you should go to the amsterdam toursts forums... i hear they don't smoke there....

dude, you danced around the questions like a lil girl. man up.

we aren't analyzing when a city was built or by who or for how long... would you go to vegas if there was no gambling? lol you can't answer the question cuz it'll show you how asinine the rest of your comments are.

I cant even answer the rest of your comments cuz i'm talking with a moron.

peace out.

dconstrukt wrote:cool man... hey you're entitled to your opinion.... opinions are like assholes.... everyones got one.

shithole? HAHAHA have you even been to vegas?

ignorant.

you think its sad someone comes to amsterdam to smoke.... I think its sad someone like yourself comes in here (a forum for POT SMOKERS) judging ppl for their choices... must be pretty pathetic life you've got there buddy.

maybe you should go to the amsterdam toursts forums... i hear they don't smoke there....

dude, you danced around the questions like a lil girl. man up.

we aren't analyzing when a city was built or by who or for how long... would you go to vegas if there was no gambling? lol you can't answer the question cuz it'll show you how asinine the rest of your comments are.

I cant even answer the rest of your comments cuz i'm talking with a moron.

peace out.

Why do you assume I have even been to Vegas? Not everyone on this board is American. I happen to be, but to assume that everyone here knows exactly what Vegas is, is typical cultural arrogance.

Yes, I have been to Vegas, twice. Once when riding a motorcycle from DC to SF, and once when riding through Death Valley. Both times it was a place to spend the night, take a shower and eat some decent food, other than diner food. I find the place depressing and only would go there again under similar circumstances.

However, you probably should know a little bit about a place before acting the expert (kinda a trend with you). The truth is Vegas has re-defined itself as a place with much more than gambling. Its a club scene, a family resort, a star-watching place, etc. So this comparison fails miserably. Apparently, tons of people go to Vegas for reasons other than gambling.

But to compare Amsterdam and Vegas is a level of ignorance that is really silly.

I don't judge people for smoking, I am a smoker myself. And I really do not give a shit if you spend all that money to come all the way from the US just for weed. But I do know, for a fact (its been cited in the papers) that many Dutch find your attitude that there is nothing more to Amsterdam than weed, well they find it insulting. And these same people voted in a government that wants to regulate the coffeeshop scene in the country I live in. Its a small part of the reason the Dutch may change the law, but it is not negligible. And I find it considerate not to insult the people of the country I live in, or like to visit (in your case).

You attest that there is no reason to visit Amsterdam other than drugs. I think that is both wrong and incredibly arrogant.

As for who is the moron....learn to write in complete sentences and we can talk about it.

lol.... I can't write now... nice.

people go to vegas for a reason (gambling/partying). People go to amsterdam for a reason (a big part is for smoking)

If you remove that reason, a lot of the people won't go.

Simple.

A lot of us go to amsterdam to smoke.

You do realize you are posting on a weed forum, right?

Like i said i don't go there just to smoke... Yes, they do have some of the most amazing museums and architecture in the world, but if there was no weed, what would make amsterdam/netherlands any different, or more appealing than any other city in europe?

Yes, the smoking is what brings me there, and many ...many ...many ...many other ppl, but if you just sit in a coffeeshop for days and never do anything else, or see anything local what kinda trip is that?

Thats lame. I wanna explore the city and enjoy it.

Marco, i highly doubt anyone dutch sitting down next to me having a conversation would have a problem with me being there...

other than you.

dconstrukt wrote:lol.... I can't write now... nice.

people go to vegas for a reason (gambling/partying). People go to amsterdam for a reason (a big part is for smoking)

If you remove that reason, a lot of the people won't go.

Simple.

A lot of us go to amsterdam to smoke.

You do realize you are posting on a weed forum, right?

Like i said i don't go there just to smoke... Yes, they do have some of the most amazing museums and architecture in the world, but if there was no weed, what would make amsterdam/netherlands any different, or more appealing than any other city in europe?

Yes, the smoking is what brings me there, and many ...many ...many ...many other ppl, but if you just sit in a coffeeshop for days and never do anything else, or see anything ocal what kinda trip is that?

Thats lame. I wanna explore the city and enjoy it.

Marco, i highly doubt anyone dutch sitting down next to me having a conversation would have a problem with me being there...

other than you.

I am not Dutch, and the Dutch don't go to coffeeshops, at least the vast majority don't. Voters in this country elected a government that is anti-CS. This did not come out of no where.

I appreciate that you backed off your initial statement a bit. I still do not agree with you, but whatever. Europeans are for the most part very proud about their countries (in different ways than us Americans). I can tell you, if you go and meet most people in Amsterdam and say what you say here, you will not get a very appreciative response.

Have a nice day.

marco, youre opinions suck, thats my opinion.

dconstrukt wrote: people go to vegas for a reason (gambling/partying). People go to amsterdam for a reason (a big part is for smoking)

If you remove that reason, a lot of the people won't go.

Simple.

A lot of us go to amsterdam to smoke.

Its why myself and friends go Dam. Otherwise its decent beaches and cocktails.

To be fair Marco, saying on ACD of all places that coming to Amsterdam purely for the weed is sad was definitely going to provoke a response for some people and not a good one, but I suspect you knew it would, makes you a bit sad as well eh.

Hey Guys lets chill a bit here, I love this site reading about trips and updates etc.
I love the Dam not just for the weed, i'm a tourist over there and respect the people and places. It's got everything you could want beautiful Buildings and Canals, Parks, a stunning Transport System, a chilled out relaxed lifestyle, yeh weed when you want it, even sex if you feel that way, BUT REMEMBER you are in THEIR Country as a guest not a right.
Most people want to smoke and chill and watch the World go round I do, but I also like to look round the City and meet people. I stood in a shop once and a load of Kids shouting and swearing walked past and the comment from a Dutch Couple was" Bloody English" why because we go to another country and abuse it. PLEASE LET'S NOT DO IT TO AMSTERDAM or HOLLAND.
Sorry to rant and I know a lot of you guys respect the Dam but please respect the people as well.
PEACE, LOVE, and LEGALISE IT

fox4 wrote:Hey Guys lets chill a bit here, I love this site reading about trips and updates etc.
I love the Dam not just for the weed, i'm a tourist over there and respect the people and places. It's got everything you could want beautiful Buildings and Canals, Parks, a stunning Transport System, a chilled out relaxed lifestyle, yeh weed when you want it, even sex if you feel that way, BUT REMEMBER you are in THEIR Country as a guest not a right.
Most people want to smoke and chill and watch the World go round I do, but I also like to look round the City and meet people. I stood in a shop once and a load of Kids shouting and swearing walked past and the comment from a Dutch Couple was" Bloody English" why because we go to another country and abuse it. PLEASE LET'S NOT DO IT TO AMSTERDAM or HOLLAND.
Sorry to rant and I know a lot of you guys respect the Dam but please respect the people as well.
PEACE, LOVE, and LEGALISE IT

Word's of wisdom my friend.

fox4 wrote:Hey Guys lets chill a bit here, I love this site reading about trips and updates etc.
I love the Dam not just for the weed, i'm a tourist over there and respect the people and places. It's got everything you could want beautiful Buildings and Canals, Parks, a stunning Transport System, a chilled out relaxed lifestyle, yeh weed when you want it, even sex if you feel that way, BUT REMEMBER you are in THEIR Country as a guest not a right.
Most people want to smoke and chill and watch the World go round I do, but I also like to look round the City and meet people. I stood in a shop once and a load of Kids shouting and swearing walked past and the comment from a Dutch Couple was" Bloody English" why because we go to another country and abuse it. PLEASE LET'S NOT DO IT TO AMSTERDAM or HOLLAND.
Sorry to rant and I know a lot of you guys respect the Dam but please respect the people as well.
PEACE, LOVE, and LEGALISE IT

I totally agree. But, you can really expect obnoxious tourists everywhere... We get them here where I live too, and wherever I travel. I think the "cannabis community" actually is very respectful in general. It's not the coffeshops causing it. What I'm saying is, yes as a visitor of course you should behave. But, if you want to be a tourist destination you have to realize that not all visitors will be respectful. Cannabis isn't relevant... Give those kids shouting and swearing a joint and they'll shut up..

Also saying goint to Amsterdam purely for the weed is ignorant... I don't agree. Well to some extent sure, but is it any worse than a wine trip to France or a whiskey destillery tour in Scotland? If that's your interest, what's the deal?

For me, well the city of Amsterdam isn't so very different from where I live. Public transport wise, it's worse. The difference is the freedom in these issues (and the canals), and if I go there to enjoy it - I don't really see a problem. I've done the cultural bit, and sure I also appreciate the architechture, the history and everything. But that is in fact secondary, I go there for the weed. If there was no weed, yeah I'd travel there once every few years. But not as often, because what I want is just freedom to smoke cannabis.

thanks for speaking up guys... oh and great analogy about going to france for wine or to wine country in cali.

i dont think all the tourists who come to smoke are obnoxious. yeah thats probably true for 20 yr olds, but me? i'm 37.... i dont know many obnoxious 30 something yr old stoners.

08-420 wrote:

fox4 wrote:Hey Guys lets chill a bit here, I love this site reading about trips and updates etc.
I love the Dam not just for the weed, i'm a tourist over there and respect the people and places. It's got everything you could want beautiful Buildings and Canals, Parks, a stunning Transport System, a chilled out relaxed lifestyle, yeh weed when you want it, even sex if you feel that way, BUT REMEMBER you are in THEIR Country as a guest not a right.
Most people want to smoke and chill and watch the World go round I do, but I also like to look round the City and meet people. I stood in a shop once and a load of Kids shouting and swearing walked past and the comment from a Dutch Couple was" Bloody English" why because we go to another country and abuse it. PLEASE LET'S NOT DO IT TO AMSTERDAM or HOLLAND.
Sorry to rant and I know a lot of you guys respect the Dam but please respect the people as well.
PEACE, LOVE, and LEGALISE IT

I totally agree. But, you can really expect obnoxious tourists everywhere... We get them here where I live too, and wherever I travel. I think the "cannabis community" actually is very respectful in general. It's not the coffeshops causing it. What I'm saying is, yes as a visitor of course you should behave. But, if you want to be a tourist destination you have to realize that not all visitors will be respectful. Cannabis isn't relevant... Give those kids shouting and swearing a joint and they'll shut up..

Also saying goint to Amsterdam purely for the weed is ignorant... I don't agree. Well to some extent sure, but is it any worse than a wine trip to France or a whiskey destillery tour in Scotland? If that's your interest, what's the deal?

For me, well the city of Amsterdam isn't so very different from where I live. Public transport wise, it's worse. The difference is the freedom in these issues (and the canals), and if I go there to enjoy it - I don't really see a problem. I've done the cultural bit, and sure I also appreciate the architechture, the history and everything. But that is in fact secondary, I go there for the weed. If there was no weed, yeah I'd travel there once every few years. But not as often, because what I want is just freedom to smoke cannabis.

The difference is that no one is speaking of making winery tours illegal due to the type of people they attract.

HasAnyoneSeenMyPipe wrote:To be fair Marco, saying on ACD of all places that coming to Amsterdam purely for the weed is sad was definitely going to provoke a response for some people and not a good one, but I suspect you knew it would, makes you a bit sad as well eh.

I can't read your bloody posts in green, mate.

I stand by my original suggestion that the OP sounds like a dumb ass. Now that I realize he is 37 and not 20, even more so.

dconstrukt wrote:thanks for speaking up guys... oh and great analogy about going to france for wine or to wine country in cali.

i dont think all the tourists who come to smoke are obnoxious. yeah thats probably true for 20 yr olds, but me? i'm 37.... i dont know many obnoxious 30 something yr old stoners.

Where did anyone say the tourists who come here to only smoke are obnoxious? I meet them all the time, some have become my friends from ACD. That is not the point.

It seems the recent groundswell to close the shops has died, thankfully. But to ignore that many Dutch don't like to associate their country with drugs tourism is naive. Another difference between French wine tours and Amsterdam, I have never seen a Dutch government tourism advertisement for coffeeshops