merry xmas to our troops

gixxer · Post by **gixxer** » Fri 24th Dec 2010 03:58 pm

in 18 years of service i only made it home 3 times for xmas, so id just like to wish all members of the forces serving in iraq and afghanistan, merry christmas and a happy and safe new year.

come home safe, i salute you all.

artymac · Post by **artymac** » Fri 24th Dec 2010 05:41 pm

Couldn't agree more Gixxer. Difficult, dangerous places. Difficult, dangerous times. Hoping the world can become a better, safer place for all, with the help and sacrifices, of the many brave men and women of many nations, who find themselves at the sharp end, including the many,many innocents who may often find themselves 'caught up' in difficult, dangerous times and places as well.Peace.

badbone · Post by **badbone** » Fri 24th Dec 2010 06:59 pm

it is, unfortunately, often an underrated work they perform

so.. MERRY X-MAS and a HAPPY/ SAFE NEW YEAR

spidergawd · Post by **spidergawd** » Fri 24th Dec 2010 11:24 pm

artymac wrote:Couldn't agree more Gixxer. Difficult, dangerous places. Difficult, dangerous times. Hoping the world can become a better, safer place for all, with the help and sacrifices, of the many brave men and women of many nations, who find themselves at the sharp end, including the many,many innocents who may often find themselves 'caught up' in difficult, dangerous times and places as well.Peace.

artymac, I couldn't put it better. My sentiments exactly.

hestia · Post by **hestia** » Sat 25th Dec 2010 04:30 pm

God bless you all !

Marco · Post by **Marco** » Mon 27th Dec 2010 01:46 am

Amen brother.

Cudi_420 · Post by **Cudi_420** » Mon 27th Dec 2010 05:14 am

I listen to all of these NBA players and coaches, all on millions of dollars a year and absolute superstars, complaining about having to "work" on Christmas Day. Well, they should stop and think about those serving overseas, who have to spend the day in a foreign and dangerous land, all to ensure you have an OPPORTUNITY to work and play on Christmas Day at all.

king solomon · Post by **king solomon** » Mon 27th Dec 2010 04:21 pm

melb-dam-lover wrote:I listen to all of these NBA players and coaches, all on millions of dollars a year and absolute superstars, complaining about having to "work" on Christmas Day. Well, they should stop and think about those serving overseas, who have to spend the day in a foreign and dangerous land, all to ensure you have an OPPORTUNITY to work and play on Christmas Day at all.

sorry mate, but neither do the people in the army "have" to work on xmas day, they choose to be there the same way i chose not to join the army, i really dont understand all this special praise the people in the army get for doing a job they wanted to do and get paid for. dont get me wrong i respect them for their choice and definatly have praise for those who served in ww2 (because in them days you didnt have a choice about joining the army or not) but i just dont get this "love in" for "our" troops.

artymac · Post by **artymac** » Mon 27th Dec 2010 06:44 pm

king solomon wrote:
melb-dam-lover wrote:I listen to all of these NBA players and coaches, all on millions of dollars a year and absolute superstars, complaining about having to "work" on Christmas Day. Well, they should stop and think about those serving overseas, who have to spend the day in a foreign and dangerous land, all to ensure you have an OPPORTUNITY to work and play on Christmas Day at all.

sorry mate, but neither do the people in the army "have" to work on xmas day, they choose to be there the same way i chose not to join the army, i really dont understand all this special praise the people in the army get for doing a job they wanted to do and get paid for. dont get me wrong i respect them for their choice and definatly have praise for those who served in ww2 (because in them days you didnt have a choice about joining the army or not) but i just dont get this "love in" for "our" troops.

"Sorry mate", but for those who are in the services of many different countries already, in many different places around the world, some often "have" to work on Christmas day, or any other day for that matter, because they are told to. The big clue is, they are already "IN" the services and have already made that choice.
The "Special Praise" they get from many is because in many cases they are sent into difficult and dangerous situations, where they often risk serious injury, or losing their lives.
The "Love in" for "Our" troops, is because these servicemen and women of many different countries are the husbands, wives, fathers, mothers, sons and daughters, brothers and sisters, best friends,.... the list goes on, of many people who think of them constantly, pray, whether they believe in a god or not, for their safety and the safety of their friends and colleages- their "Other" family.
The complexities of the many different situations that many servicemen and women, of many different nations find themselves in, is another matter and one i would happily debate with all the "A.C.D"s who would choose to do so. But that would be in another thread.

king solomon · Post by **king solomon** » Mon 27th Dec 2010 08:38 pm

artymac wrote:
king solomon wrote:
melb-dam-lover wrote:I listen to all of these NBA players and coaches, all on millions of dollars a year and absolute superstars, complaining about having to "work" on Christmas Day. Well, they should stop and think about those serving overseas, who have to spend the day in a foreign and dangerous land, all to ensure you have an OPPORTUNITY to work and play on Christmas Day at all.

sorry mate, but neither do the people in the army "have" to work on xmas day, they choose to be there the same way i chose not to join the army, i really dont understand all this special praise the people in the army get for doing a job they wanted to do and get paid for. dont get me wrong i respect them for their choice and definatly have praise for those who served in ww2 (because in them days you didnt have a choice about joining the army or not) but i just dont get this "love in" for "our" troops.
"Sorry mate", but for those who are in the services of many different countries already, in many different places around the world, some often "have" to work on Christmas day, or any other day for that matter, because they are told to. The big clue is, they are already "IN" the services and have already made that choice.
The "Special Praise" they get from many is because in many cases they are sent into difficult and dangerous situations, where they often risk serious injury, or losing their lives.
The "Love in" for "Our" troops, is because these servicemen and women of many different countries are the husbands, wives, fathers, mothers, sons and daughters, brothers and sisters, best friends,.... the list goes on, of many people who think of them constantly, pray, whether they believe in a god or not, for their safety and the safety of their friends and colleages- their "Other" family.
The complexities of the many different situations that many servicemen and women, of many different nations find themselves in, is another matter and one i would happily debate with all the "A.C.D"s who would choose to do so. But that would be in another thread.

ok sorry if i offended anybody by my statement, but if you had read what i said in the last part about those who served in world war 2 and my respect for them you wouldnt have come at me the way you did with sarcastic tone of your reply, maybe i should have said the british or any other developed world forces because ALL of their troops are there by choice and NOT because they have to. My point is this, why should i respect somebody in the army more than i would respect doctors,nurse's, police or fire brigade? because i dont see any threads wishing any of them a merry xmas. and before you start slating me read what i have said i DO RESPECT the men and women in the forces, i just dont respect them anymore than i would respect anybody else doing a job what they get paid for.

artymac · Post by **artymac** » Tue 28th Dec 2010 05:14 am

"K.S." The whole point of this thread was to wish a safe and peaceful Christmas to the servicemen and women serving in Iraq and Afghanistan. You would like to extend this special praise shown here to the many other deserving occupations you mentioned, nurses, doctors, police, fire brigade. I for one have no problem with this, if only you had made this clear from the beginning. But aren't all of the above doing the job they wanted to do and being paid for it? Is this what you did not understand about the army? The choices they made?
You said in your next post that "All of their troops are there by choice and NOT because they have to..", did they assemble all the troops on the parade ground and have a show of hands to see who wanted to go? You take the money, you go where you are told, or you take the consequences- court marshal, jail or in some armies of the world, you get shoot.
I'm sarcastic. You bet. Were you sarcastic when you replied to mel-dam-lover, when it was pointed out that a lot of obscenely highly paid people having to go out and take part in what is a game of sport on Christmas day, pales before spending that special time apart from their families that many servive people are having to do, that they don't "have" to work on Christmas day?
"K.S." I',m afraid you did not come across very well in your first post and your second post on the subject was pretty pish poor as well. Lets just call a seize fire and hope on this this matter, that was your "last post". Ironically, Peace.

gixxer · Post by **gixxer** » Tue 28th Dec 2010 09:49 am

well said artymac, very eloquently put

how many of the professions you mentioned king solomon have to put up with possibly being shot or having their legs blown off by an ied, while youre stuffing turkey in yer gob.

so maybe you should try shutting the fuck up ya prick

king solomon · Post by **king solomon** » Tue 28th Dec 2010 10:49 am

artymac wrote:"K.S." The whole point of this thread was to wish a safe and peaceful Christmas to the servicemen and women serving in Iraq and Afghanistan. You would like to extend this special praise shown here to the many other deserving occupations you mentioned, nurses, doctors, police, fire brigade. I for one have no problem with this, if only you had made this clear from the beginning. But aren't all of the above doing the job they wanted to do and being paid for it? Is this what you did not understand about the army? The choices they made?
You said in your next post that "All of their troops are there by choice and NOT because they have to..", did they assemble all the troops on the parade ground and have a show of hands to see who wanted to go? You take the money, you go where you are told, or you take the consequences- court marshal, jail or in some armies of the world, you get shoot.
I'm sarcastic. You bet. Were you sarcastic when you replied to mel-dam-lover, when it was pointed out that a lot of obscenely highly paid people having to go out and take part in what is a game of sport on Christmas day, pales before spending that special time apart from their families that many servive people are having to do, that they don't "have" to work on Christmas day?
"K.S." I',m afraid you did not come across very well in your first post and your second post on the subject was pretty pish poor as well. Lets just call a seize fire and hope on this this matter, that was your "last post". Ironically, Peace.

ok artymac, now you have showcased your superior grammer to mine maybe you will read what i said and not leave out certain bits to make your arguement sound stronger. let me do it for you

1) you said - "K.S." The whole point of this thread was to wish a safe and peaceful Christmas to the servicemen and women serving in Iraq and Afghanistan. I know what the point of this thread is

2) you said - You would like to extend this special praise shown here to the many other deserving occupations you mentioned, nurses, doctors, police, fire brigade. No I didnt say i would like to extend this special praise to them, I was just asking the question why the army should get anymore praise than them on any other person doing a job which was their choice to do

3)you said- But aren't all of the above doing the job they wanted to do and being paid for it? Is this what you did not understand about the army? The choices they made? - I dont understand the point your trying to make there. To tell you the truth i wouldnt understand why anybody takes any job unless I was to ask them myself. All I was saying was that in the U.K and most developed countries you dont have to join the army its a choice that people make. Infact I really didnt want to bring it to this but from what i have read, seen on t.v and heard people say and please correct me if i am wrong but most people only join the army for one of five things. 1- Because they have left the education system with little or nothing to show for their time there and see it as a good job oppertunity. 2- Economic circumstance i.e in the uk forces you will find more people from the north than the south, I know thats a sweeping generalisation but thats the view I have got by reading and watching the t.v. 3- They see it as a stepping stone to greater things (looks good on a c.v). 4- They really do go into the forces for the SOLE PURPOSE of trying to make the world a better place for everybody (dont know why but something tells me thats a minority) and finally point 5- They come from the "right" family. What i mean by this is, hasnt anybody else ever thought to themselves why whenever we see interviews with high ranking officers in the forces they always seem to be very posh and upper class? But yet 95% of the army are not from that background

4) you said - You said in your next post that "All of their troops are there by choice and NOT because they have to..", did they assemble all the troops on the parade ground and have a show of hands to see who wanted to go? You take the money, you go where you are told, or you take the consequences- court marshal, jail or in some armies of the world, you get shoot. you actually killed your own arguement there with the statement "you take the money, you go where you are told".

5) you said - I'm sarcastic. You bet. Were you sarcastic when you replied to mel-dam-lover, when it was pointed out that a lot of obscenely highly paid people having to go out and take part in what is a game of sport on Christmas day, pales before spending that special time apart from their families that many servive people are having to do, that they don't "have" to work on Christmas day? I think you will find i wasnt being sarcastic i was only pointing out that people in the forces only had to work on xmas day because they signed up for it, nobody held a gun to there head and made them join the forces

6) you said- "K.S." I',m afraid you did not come across very well in your first post and your second post on the subject was pretty pish poor as well. Lets just call a seize fire and hope on this this matter, that was your "last post". Ironically, Peace. Thats you opinion and your very welcome to it and i have my opinion lets just agree to differ ..

king solomon · Post by **king solomon** » Tue 28th Dec 2010 10:55 am

gixxer wrote:well said artymac, very eloquently put

how many of the professions you mentioned king solomon have to put up with possibly being shot or having their legs blown off by an ied, while youre stuffing turkey in yer gob.

so maybe you should try shutting the fuck up ya prick

said like a true army boy lol, dont take it personal mate. I didnt say anything bad did I? if i did i apoligise, or are you a "Sun Newspaper" reader and think that its worse than blasphemy to say anything different to your opinion on "Our Troops" grow up mate. Oh yeah i dont like turkey either

gixxer · Post by **gixxer** » Tue 28th Dec 2010 11:23 am

me read the sun and grow up

youre a fucking wanker