Using Liquid Oxygen

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Using Liquid Oxygen

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I saw some info regarding a commercial grow and they were getting some amazing results so im gonna try use some of the same stuff :?: :idea: :lol: :shock: So they use the liquid Oxy . However reading my other nutes etc the Bio-boost says do not use with hydrogen peroxide so does that mean in the same tank/bucket(as no doubt the warning concerns a chemical reaction) or not at all ? So could i feed them including bio-boost then add the Oxygen with their water ? (i grow in soil)

im wondering if the not using applies to Top Max aswell ? as its apperantly the same although there are no warnings on the top max


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the problem is that the oxy will kill the useful fungies, bacterias and other stuff!
I use biofilters (GHE) in each tank to keep the ph stable, if I would add peroxide
the "bio magic" would be killed and the filter would be useless.

If you do nft or aero the roots will get enough O2.

I use peroxide to clean the system after each run. 8)
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Try GA Spray!
http://www.420magazine.com/forums/no-me ... lator.html

Bio-G-Power GA-Spray
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But be careful, if you use it the worng way or time you'll get hemis!
That does not pollute the water and soli as it's sprayed on the leaves and stems.
Do not spray it on the soil, it's bad for the roots!
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Hydrogen Peroxide? Aint that the stuff they bleach hair with Cisco?
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hulldj wrote:Hydrogen Peroxide? Aint that the stuff they bleach hair with Cisco?
right!
but you use it very low concentrated.
it increases the O2 concentration in the root section as it reacts to water and O2!!!
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Sorry, just had visions of spikey haired bleach blonde buds.... :lol:
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You can buy a water oxygenator at grow shops, or they can probably order one. That would be a safer way to go then fucking around with Peroxide! It's worth looking into Cisco.
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Read the following. Yeah, it's Wiki so take it with a grain, or gram. :lol:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_oxygen

I really like this part: "Because of its cryogenic nature, liquid oxygen can cause the materials it touches to become extremely brittle. Liquid oxygen is also a very powerful oxidizing agent: organic materials will burn rapidly and energetically in liquid oxygen. Further, if soaked in liquid oxygen, some materials such as coal briquettes, carbon black, etc., can detonate unpredictably from sources of ignition such as flames, sparks or impact from light blows. Petrochemicals often exhibit this behavior, including asphalt."

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So no-one uses it then ? :roll: Yeah of course there are risks involved but thats the same as using any chemical , it is sold in grow-shops and using it in the quantities involved .5ml in 2L

Thanks for the replies im just looking for a succinct reply can you use it with bio-bizz or not at all ? it says on the back not to be used in combination , rather than conjunction so im presuming you can use it alongside just not mixed together?

well i have used it with liquid silicone on veging plants and i can see a difference already :wink: i may just buy the bloom agent the peeps were using (Buddy Vitalink) and use that rather than bio-boost
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When I first read the thread and started researching, I thought why would DIY growers risk their crops using a commercial growing technique? One fuck-up and it's all over. Definitely an advanced growing technique and not really for the general DIY crowd, in my humble opinion that is.

There are many techniques that commercial growers use that are more of a pain in the ass and have high risk factors than it's worth for the DIY grower. If their crop goes bust, no problem all things considered. The DIY grower however is screwed. All that effort and expenditure of resources for...nothing. This is mainly why I don't use commercial growing techniques - can't afford to write-off the losses. This is why I stick to KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid). :lol:

A viable seed, a slotted container, (bio) growing medium, light, air circulation, PH balanced water, and BASIC nutrients (P, K, N, and trace minerals). This is basically all that is needed to grow a plant successfully. The more one adds to the process, the more that can go wrong. Murphy's Law is always in full effect - if it can go wrong, it will. :shock: :lol:

Cisco, you were just looking for a succinct reply, so here it is - don't bother. :lol: :lol: :lol: Stick with what works best for the DIY grower, simplicity aka KISS. It does work almost every time, operative word being 'almost'. If you decide to go ahead, please share with us your grief, er, experiences. Just kidding about the grief. :lol:

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Cheers DUR as i said i have used it already on veging plants and can see a real difference in vitality etc
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cisco wrote:Cheers DUR as i said i have used it already on veging plants and can see a real difference in vitality etc
Don't know why that didn't register as I was finishing my thoughts.

For fucks sake, don't spill any on the large pile of coal briquettes and asphalt you keep in your house. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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I say forge ahead Cisco! Whatever the fuck works, eh? I must say that I'm baffled by all of this new shit that is supposed to increase yields and potency, and then you see something that actually works for people; you have to keep an open mind, I guess!
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Mate if you wanna increase yield switch from cfl to hps. I did and went from yields of around 28g per 4 auto's to 5 oz from 4 normal albeit small plants. Using a 250 in a 60x60x140 no heat issues at all :)
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Carlos wrote:Mate if you wanna increase yield switch from cfl to hps. I did and went from yields of around 28g per 4 auto's to 5 oz from 4 normal albeit small plants. Using a 250 in a 60x60x140 no heat issues at all :)
I must have missed something, where did Cisco mention that he's using Flo's?

As for CLF's vs. HID, something I've been saying for years, unfortunately not everyone has the available resources or living arrangements, or both. I suppose these are two reasons (out of many) why people try different methods of increasing yield.

Off topic, sort of.
How about having a grow-off where growers use their preferred method and compare the results. I realize this would be difficult on many levels, beginning with honesty and integrity. :shock: :lol: Next would be how to judge the smell, taste, and effects. Forget about how it looks, this ain't no beauty pageant although extra credit could be given to the most resinous looking bud. Obviously the seeds would have to be of the same strain, from the same source, uniformity and all that. The same applies to where it's grown - indoors vs. indoors, out vs. out, greenhouse vs. greenhouse, and so on. Commercial grows not accepted, this is for the DIY grower.

Back on topic. I support R&D as much if not more than the next guy, I just urge caution when dealing with volatile substances. So many stories of how things went horribly wrong. The last thing I want to read about on this forum (anywhere for that matter) is how someone got hurt or worse while using what I call "non standard' growing techniques.

Cisco, please keep us informed on your progress.

Happy and safe farming.
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