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hope this works out for you Rufus
what a f'up
what a f'up
Sending out the good vibes to those that need them right now 
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It's a complete fuck upftcarer wrote:what a f'up
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"Rufus", i feel like i should be wearin' a trenchcoat
If the electronic thing that your meant to sign also gives the time when you 'sign', they only have to look at the time line of signatures to have a very good idea of where the delivery driver was for most of his shift.
You could plot from signature/location, to next signature/location (1 mile to travel and deliver the next item, 10 mins. Just say.) and... IF... the time when your 'signature' was used to collect your "Roor" showed he had been across town, then he could not have been at 'your' door. Simples

You just have to prove he was far enough away. After that it's his problem, maybe it wasn't on the van in the first place and he paniced. Still not your problem.
I would say at the very least it's worth a try. Ask them some guarded questions about the signature and the machine, "Is the time of the forged signature logged automatically on the machine" type thing, then kick them in the balls with the follow up

God, it's better than the telly...Let us know how you get on.
Don't take no for an answer 
If the electronic thing that your meant to sign also gives the time when you 'sign', they only have to look at the time line of signatures to have a very good idea of where the delivery driver was for most of his shift.
You could plot from signature/location, to next signature/location (1 mile to travel and deliver the next item, 10 mins. Just say.) and... IF... the time when your 'signature' was used to collect your "Roor" showed he had been across town, then he could not have been at 'your' door. Simples
You just have to prove he was far enough away. After that it's his problem, maybe it wasn't on the van in the first place and he paniced. Still not your problem.
I would say at the very least it's worth a try. Ask them some guarded questions about the signature and the machine, "Is the time of the forged signature logged automatically on the machine" type thing, then kick them in the balls with the follow up
God, it's better than the telly...Let us know how you get on.
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Well like I say I'll keep chasing, an angry Rufus can be a scary lady so RM better watch out
Stay tuned
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I kinda' meant "Columbo", when i mentioned the 'trenchcoat'
Still it could have been worse, you might have thought i was a flasher

Still it could have been worse, you might have thought i was a flasher
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artymac wrote:I kinda' meant "Columbo", when i mentioned the 'trenchcoat'![]()
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Still it could have been worse, you might have thought i was a flasher![]()
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Edit: yes FT and Steven yes it was one big fuck up, but one I will get to the bottom off at some stage in 2011!!!
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Good news!!! As you can see below my nice new Roor blue arrived today
yes I was very shocked. Bit of a weird ending to be honest. Came home from work and my next door neighbour rushes out carrying a box with fragile stuck all over it, I'm thinking, no way could it be!! He said a very strange guy called at his door last night with my package (I was out last night) and said he has just moved into a house with a similiar address to mine and found my package??? Okay I'm not complaining, but WTF happened in the two weeks this was missing? Still don't know who signed for it, where it actually went, and why the postman couldn't read my correct and clearly printed address on the package?? Oh well, alls well that ends well. And I also got a nice new free grinder with my order, happy days as I left mine at my friend's place
Looks like I shall have to fire it up later
Thanks all for the input peeps, happy ending to the fiasco.
Rufus

Thanks all for the input peeps, happy ending to the fiasco.
Rufus

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POLICE, your gonna get busted
trust me 
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I have just freaked out & I mean that!!!!
vandaag is het begin van de rest van je leven
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Happy ending all round 
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I cannot think of anything else but 3 possible outcomes;
1. It's really true the way it all happened and this guy got it by accident and was just returning it.
Was the box opened or tampered with? "Roor" possibly used, cheeky bastards. You could phone the company you got it from and ask what packaging they nornally use to give you an idea if it had been opened and reboxed if you're suspicious.
2. The delivery driver, your biggest suspect, with all his don't knows and can't remembers,...or somebody else from the sorting office who stole it, or was involved in stealing it, has decided the best, possibly only, chance of getting away from a VERY serious situation, probably involving the police, because of all the questions being asked and the scrutiny they are being put under, they may have decided to possibly end the whole thing, or at least try and eradicate the theft part of it, by dropping it off at a neighbour, in person, or more likely, getting someone to do it for them, so you get your property back, are happy to let it drop and by a miracle, they get off with it, if the good lords willing and the creek don't rise... MOST LIKELY OUTCOME OF WHAT HAPPENED.
If the delivery driver, or the someone in the sorting office who stole it, knew they were about to get 'busted', knew the time/location differences were going to hang them, or the, "Fuck all to do with me, you better sort this, so i don't get any bother at my door, or i'll beat you senseless!!", conversation has taken place, all this is more likely to have saw the reappearance of your parcel... I'm ruling out guilt...
3. Somehow, whilst in the hands of the "Royal Mail", the contents of your parcel was discovered, nothing illegal there, but it roused enough suspicion for someone to involve the police, the police have decided to see how you would react to being told, firstly, the parcel/contents have gone missing, secondly, the fuss that this causes, to see if it would merit having, thirdly, a very close look at your activities, to see if you mixed in the wrong certain circles, fourthly, whether it merits further action like raiding your house to see if you have a grow show, or to catch you, in the act of smoking from your "Roor", lastly to see how you react to the parcel turning up in such a strange way.
I don't think this is very, very likely at all, nothing illegal here to go on, they may say what it can be used for, doesn't make it so. The only suspicious thing they could say about it, even if they were involved, was you said the parcel contained a vase,..so what..you thought it looks lovely..i want it.. and did not fancy having to explain yourself about how you spend your money, for which, i have a receipt. Nothing illegal. A lovely souvenir piece of glassware/collectable.
I would say the police in N.I. have more to be going on with, than to be bothered with, "Rufus's" "Roor", as it should be now known, even the drug suad would only give it a little, if any, of its valuable time, before moving on swiftly(Unless you do swim with the 'sharks' and should be renamed Don "Rufus") On the strength of what could be put before a Judge, they couldn't get a warrant to bust your house. You are not trying to defraud the "Royal Mail" of money, you, at the time the parcel was reported missing, just wanted it back. Your behaviour is above reproach in the matter.
But as "Kermit" mentioned, the police might just chance their arm and knock at your door...very politely...so there are some precautions that you should take until you know where you stand.
You may wish to try and just forget about this as it's very stressful and you want to get back to normal.
This is your decision, but i would say, DON'T. You want to know where you stand, especially if you want to be able to relax and use your "Roor", invite your friends over for a smoke..etc...
If you decide to follow this advice... you have to phone up the "Royal Mail" to let them know what has happened, you want to know if anyone contacted them about your parcel and you've still not happy about how the whole thing was handled. If you only read this later and think, it's a little late to let them know now, say you told a friend all about it and they said you'd better report it as it was too strange, something you had not thought of at the time. BEST RESULT. A grovelling letter of apology, assurances it will be looked into, a bit of something for all your trouble.
If, this very long shot,... was something thought up by the police..your behaving in a manner that raises no cause for concern and should be an end to 'operation' "Rufus". If you decide to say nothing as you have your parcel back... and they really are out to get you, sayin nothing could be viewed as suspicious in some quarters. YOU HAVE VERY LITTLE TO WORRY ABOUT HERE.
If, the "Royal Mail" employee in question, did try and cover their tracks and hand it back, but they were pretty much fucked already, as the authorities were onto them, you may get a visit from the police as part of an investigation instigated by the "Royal Mail", to help catch and prosecute the person responsible. They would much prefare not to wash their dirty laundry in public. But it may come to that. They may wish to speak to your neighbour to ask about a description of the good 'samaritan', or to see your souvenir piece of glassware/collectable, so don't use it for a little while more, until you know where you stand. If you have already treated yourself and god knows you deserve it, wash it like new. Just for a little while, don't leave anything that could give you problems lying where any "visitors" might see them and be careful the place doesn't smell like a coffeeshop. Only ever mention about the other stuff in the parcel if you are asked, you only gave a shit about your souvenir glassware/collectable. If they ask, the other stuff was a joke to finish off the look of the "Roor". Saw it on holiday if need be. Nothing illegal here.
IF you decide to say nothing, as you have your parcel back and the "Royal Mail" involve the police, as they think it merits further investigation to catch an employee they believe responsible, you could look very foolish for not reporting the parcel found and bring lots of unwanted attention on yourself, as well as many more questions and stressful times i'm sure you don't need.
Don't use that "Roor", keep it nice and clean, like the souvenir piece of glassware/collectable it is!! til you're in the clear. If you don't hear anything for a while phone up the "Royal Mail" again and ask if the matter has been resolved. That way you'll know for sure and totally chill
Hope i don't sound totally paranoid.
Keep us all up to date. I honestly think you have very little to worry about, unlike the delivery driver. If the police do show up, or more likely phone you, it's cool, it's for him. let them talk, choose your words, you've done nothin wrong.
1. It's really true the way it all happened and this guy got it by accident and was just returning it.
Was the box opened or tampered with? "Roor" possibly used, cheeky bastards. You could phone the company you got it from and ask what packaging they nornally use to give you an idea if it had been opened and reboxed if you're suspicious.
2. The delivery driver, your biggest suspect, with all his don't knows and can't remembers,...or somebody else from the sorting office who stole it, or was involved in stealing it, has decided the best, possibly only, chance of getting away from a VERY serious situation, probably involving the police, because of all the questions being asked and the scrutiny they are being put under, they may have decided to possibly end the whole thing, or at least try and eradicate the theft part of it, by dropping it off at a neighbour, in person, or more likely, getting someone to do it for them, so you get your property back, are happy to let it drop and by a miracle, they get off with it, if the good lords willing and the creek don't rise... MOST LIKELY OUTCOME OF WHAT HAPPENED.
If the delivery driver, or the someone in the sorting office who stole it, knew they were about to get 'busted', knew the time/location differences were going to hang them, or the, "Fuck all to do with me, you better sort this, so i don't get any bother at my door, or i'll beat you senseless!!", conversation has taken place, all this is more likely to have saw the reappearance of your parcel... I'm ruling out guilt...
3. Somehow, whilst in the hands of the "Royal Mail", the contents of your parcel was discovered, nothing illegal there, but it roused enough suspicion for someone to involve the police, the police have decided to see how you would react to being told, firstly, the parcel/contents have gone missing, secondly, the fuss that this causes, to see if it would merit having, thirdly, a very close look at your activities, to see if you mixed in the wrong certain circles, fourthly, whether it merits further action like raiding your house to see if you have a grow show, or to catch you, in the act of smoking from your "Roor", lastly to see how you react to the parcel turning up in such a strange way.
I don't think this is very, very likely at all, nothing illegal here to go on, they may say what it can be used for, doesn't make it so. The only suspicious thing they could say about it, even if they were involved, was you said the parcel contained a vase,..so what..you thought it looks lovely..i want it.. and did not fancy having to explain yourself about how you spend your money, for which, i have a receipt. Nothing illegal. A lovely souvenir piece of glassware/collectable.
I would say the police in N.I. have more to be going on with, than to be bothered with, "Rufus's" "Roor", as it should be now known, even the drug suad would only give it a little, if any, of its valuable time, before moving on swiftly(Unless you do swim with the 'sharks' and should be renamed Don "Rufus") On the strength of what could be put before a Judge, they couldn't get a warrant to bust your house. You are not trying to defraud the "Royal Mail" of money, you, at the time the parcel was reported missing, just wanted it back. Your behaviour is above reproach in the matter.
But as "Kermit" mentioned, the police might just chance their arm and knock at your door...very politely...so there are some precautions that you should take until you know where you stand.
You may wish to try and just forget about this as it's very stressful and you want to get back to normal.
This is your decision, but i would say, DON'T. You want to know where you stand, especially if you want to be able to relax and use your "Roor", invite your friends over for a smoke..etc...
If you decide to follow this advice... you have to phone up the "Royal Mail" to let them know what has happened, you want to know if anyone contacted them about your parcel and you've still not happy about how the whole thing was handled. If you only read this later and think, it's a little late to let them know now, say you told a friend all about it and they said you'd better report it as it was too strange, something you had not thought of at the time. BEST RESULT. A grovelling letter of apology, assurances it will be looked into, a bit of something for all your trouble.
If, this very long shot,... was something thought up by the police..your behaving in a manner that raises no cause for concern and should be an end to 'operation' "Rufus". If you decide to say nothing as you have your parcel back... and they really are out to get you, sayin nothing could be viewed as suspicious in some quarters. YOU HAVE VERY LITTLE TO WORRY ABOUT HERE.
If, the "Royal Mail" employee in question, did try and cover their tracks and hand it back, but they were pretty much fucked already, as the authorities were onto them, you may get a visit from the police as part of an investigation instigated by the "Royal Mail", to help catch and prosecute the person responsible. They would much prefare not to wash their dirty laundry in public. But it may come to that. They may wish to speak to your neighbour to ask about a description of the good 'samaritan', or to see your souvenir piece of glassware/collectable, so don't use it for a little while more, until you know where you stand. If you have already treated yourself and god knows you deserve it, wash it like new. Just for a little while, don't leave anything that could give you problems lying where any "visitors" might see them and be careful the place doesn't smell like a coffeeshop. Only ever mention about the other stuff in the parcel if you are asked, you only gave a shit about your souvenir glassware/collectable. If they ask, the other stuff was a joke to finish off the look of the "Roor". Saw it on holiday if need be. Nothing illegal here.
IF you decide to say nothing, as you have your parcel back and the "Royal Mail" involve the police, as they think it merits further investigation to catch an employee they believe responsible, you could look very foolish for not reporting the parcel found and bring lots of unwanted attention on yourself, as well as many more questions and stressful times i'm sure you don't need.
Don't use that "Roor", keep it nice and clean, like the souvenir piece of glassware/collectable it is!! til you're in the clear. If you don't hear anything for a while phone up the "Royal Mail" again and ask if the matter has been resolved. That way you'll know for sure and totally chill
Keep us all up to date. I honestly think you have very little to worry about, unlike the delivery driver. If the police do show up, or more likely phone you, it's cool, it's for him. let them talk, choose your words, you've done nothin wrong.
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I don't think the police was involved, that's to much paranoia.
if the parcel was not opened before you're fine. anyway choose curier delivery (UPS, Fedex, DPD) next time.
don't forget to keep it clean and tasty, never use a brush to clean just boiling water to heat the glass and then pure isopropanol or the roor cleaner!
Roor's cleaning instruction:
"We recommend only our biodegradable ROOR cleaning agent, as it enables cleaning without a brush within a few minutes if used properly. A prerequisite for the cleaning agent’s ideal effectiveness is heating the glass beforehand. You can do this by pouring boiling water into the pipe and waiting for about one minute before pouring the water out again. The undiluted cleaning agent is then sparsely sprinkled over the glass surface, thus rinsing away all dirt particles and sediments. Every ROOR pipe can be perfectly cleaned and rinsed within 3-4 minutes, no matter how much it has been smoked or how dirty it is. Moreover, a completely clean ROOR pipe is not only a pleasure to the eye and lung, but because of its cleanness – especially legally – solely a piece of art. Usually the lime content in our tap water is very high. This is the reason why over time lime deposits gather on the glass surface. This leads to the glass becoming dull, as well as to an increase of dirt particles gathering on this dulled surface. We therefore recommend for our high quality products the periodical use of our anti-lime solution. It goes without saying that the prerequisite for a satisfactory result is previous cleaning. When cleaning water pipes with a brush, the surface of the glass will be scratched time and again – even if you can hardly see it at first. On the one hand, this has a nasty effect on the optical appearance of the pipe, on the other, your pipe will not survive that long. As the surface is no longer smooth because of the scratches, dirt will accumulate faster and to a stronger degree. On top of this, the risk of the pipe being broken increases because the surface of the glass has been hurt."
enjoy your new tube

if the parcel was not opened before you're fine. anyway choose curier delivery (UPS, Fedex, DPD) next time.
don't forget to keep it clean and tasty, never use a brush to clean just boiling water to heat the glass and then pure isopropanol or the roor cleaner!
Roor's cleaning instruction:
"We recommend only our biodegradable ROOR cleaning agent, as it enables cleaning without a brush within a few minutes if used properly. A prerequisite for the cleaning agent’s ideal effectiveness is heating the glass beforehand. You can do this by pouring boiling water into the pipe and waiting for about one minute before pouring the water out again. The undiluted cleaning agent is then sparsely sprinkled over the glass surface, thus rinsing away all dirt particles and sediments. Every ROOR pipe can be perfectly cleaned and rinsed within 3-4 minutes, no matter how much it has been smoked or how dirty it is. Moreover, a completely clean ROOR pipe is not only a pleasure to the eye and lung, but because of its cleanness – especially legally – solely a piece of art. Usually the lime content in our tap water is very high. This is the reason why over time lime deposits gather on the glass surface. This leads to the glass becoming dull, as well as to an increase of dirt particles gathering on this dulled surface. We therefore recommend for our high quality products the periodical use of our anti-lime solution. It goes without saying that the prerequisite for a satisfactory result is previous cleaning. When cleaning water pipes with a brush, the surface of the glass will be scratched time and again – even if you can hardly see it at first. On the one hand, this has a nasty effect on the optical appearance of the pipe, on the other, your pipe will not survive that long. As the surface is no longer smooth because of the scratches, dirt will accumulate faster and to a stronger degree. On top of this, the risk of the pipe being broken increases because the surface of the glass has been hurt."
enjoy your new tube
HOLLAND
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sounds like little Rufus rattled some cages
i hope it got a good welcome home
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All this talk of the police is total paranoia. I'd say it's the delivery driver having 2nd thoughts.
Enjoy ya bong and don't worry about it anymore
Enjoy ya bong and don't worry about it anymore