London Riots 2011

[Mr_Gav]

I blame left wingers lol.

Those parents who should have never been allowed to have kids, never would have had kids if it wasn't for the lefties. Sorry, but it's true.

I think we shall have to differ on that one
As political leanings have little to do with parents who can’t be bothered to teach their offspring how to behave

Parents who can't be bothered with their kids, wouldn't bother having kids if it wasn't for the welfare state. It has everything to do with political leanings.

[25211]

Parents who can't be bothered with their kids, wouldn't bother having kids if it wasn't for the welfare state. It has everything to do with political leanings.

Sorry but I must disagree with you again
They would have had the kids anyway as most of them probably still don’t understand where babies come from
The parents were brought up in the Thatcher years of greed is good & sod you jack I’m alright
As I said locally I went to school with a lot of these now parents & to be honest they didn’t give a shit then so you can’t expect them to change
All you have to do is go in to the local town centres and I see the kids of people who I went to school with out with their kids
It appears they think it’s acceptable to start effing & blinding at 2 or 3 year olds in very public places

It has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with a total lack of common respect for anyone but yourself
(and most of them have no self respect)

The rioters are SCUM and as I said lock them up & throw away the key

[Mr_Gav]

Sorry but I must disagree with you again
They would have had the kids anyway as most of them probably still don’t understand where babies come from
The parents were brought up in the Thatcher years of greed is good & sod you jack I’m alright
As I said locally I went to school with a lot of these now parents & to be honest they didn’t give a shit then so you can’t expect them to change
All you have to do is go in to the local town centres and I see the kids of people who I went to school with out with their kids
It appears they think it’s acceptable to start effing & blinding at 2 or 3 year olds in very public places

It has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with a total lack of common respect for anyone but yourself
(and most of them have no self respect)

The rioters are SCUM and as I said lock them up & throw away the key

There was still a welfare state during the Thatcher years. Politics is violence, if you condone it, you only have yourself to blame when more violence occurs as a result.

[25211]

There was still a welfare state during the Thatcher years..

If you want to blame the welfare state go on blaming it, it is your opinion to which you are entitled
(Even though you are wrong)
It is more to do with Thatcher standing up an telling the country “there is no such thing as society, Just the individual & their family”
Which the intellectually challenged took on board and look where it got us

Politics is violence, if you condone it, you only have yourself to blame when more violence occurs as a result.

No sorry you lost me there,” Politics is violence”???

[spireax]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjfSucUhJiQ Thatcher Fucked The Kids.
25211 yr spot on, that diseased hag's legacy has come home to roost. Was never gonna end well when people are brought up thinking there's only 'me' and no 'we'.

[Mr_Gav]

Yes, politics is violence.

Example:
Some people want a youth club in their local area. They lobby government and if successful, the government takes money from the productive members of society to pay for it. If any individual refuses to pay, the money is taken by force. If they try to defend themselves, they will be overpowered, kidnapped and locked away by men in uniforms, armed with batons and CS spray. If they are equipped to defend themselves against the men with batons and CS spray, men with guns will come and shoot them.

That is extreme violence, anyone can see that.

[25211]

Yes, politics is violence.

Example:
Some people want a youth club in their local area. They lobby government and if successful, the government takes money from the productive members of society to pay for it. If any individual refuses to pay, the money is taken by force. If they try to defend themselves, they will be overpowered, kidnapped and locked away by men in uniforms, armed with batons and CS spray. If they are equipped to defend themselves against the men with batons and CS spray, men with guns will come and shoot them.

That is extreme violence, anyone can see that.

LMFAO!

[Mr_Gav]

LMFAO!

Why is that funny?

[25211]

LMFAO!

Why is that funny?

Because it is such BS
And is exactly the sort of attitude that has caused the riots

[Mr_Gav]

LMFAO!

Why is that funny?

Because it is such BS
And is exactly the sort of attitude that has caused the riots

Which parts exactly are bullshit and why? All I did was describe what actually happens, instead of trying to hide the truth with words like taxation. That's not even an attitude, how can that cause riots?

[25211]

Which parts exactly are bullshit and why? All I did was describe what actually happens, instead of trying to hide the truth with words like taxation. That's not even an attitude, how can that cause riots?

Your choice of words makes it all BULL of the highest order
You obviously resent the idea of the welfare state and have decided to blame it for most of the ills in society
And your choice of words comes across as the sort of case made by the intellectually challenged low life scum for stealing and destroying people’s homes & livelihoods

I am only able to work thanks to the welfare state (working tax credits with the disability element), I only got my job through a local authority body whose role was to get people back in to work
Both my parents who have worked all their lives and done without themselves to provide for their children
Are now elderly & disabled & surprise surprise dependent on the welfare state
So I can only take it that neither I or my parents should get any help from your point of view

How any sane individual can blame the welfare state for the dire state of British society is beyond me

It is people with the attitude of I won’t use/don’t need X service or Y resource so why should I pay for it who are 100% to blame
And that is not a million miles away from the attitude of I haven’t got a big TV or the latest phone so let’s just go nick one

As I did say you are entitled to your opinion, but you are so wrong it is unbelievable

[Mr_Gav]

Your choice of words makes it all BULL of the highest order
You obviously resent the idea of the welfare state and have decided to blame it for most of the ills in society
And your choice of words comes across as the sort of case made by the intellectually challenged low life scum for stealing and destroying people’s homes & livelihoods

I am only able to work thanks to the welfare state (working tax credits with the disability element), I only got my job through a local authority body whose role was to get people back in to work
Both my parents who have worked all their lives and done without themselves to provide for their children
Are now elderly & disabled & surprise surprise dependent on the welfare state
So I can only take it that neither I or my parents should get any help from your point of view

How any sane individual can blame the welfare state for the dire state of British society is beyond me

It is people with the attitude of I won’t use/don’t need X service or Y resource so why should I pay for it who are 100% to blame
And that is not a million miles away from the attitude of I haven’t got a big TV or the latest phone so let’s just go nick one

As I did say you are entitled to your opinion, but you are so wrong it is unbelievable

My choice of words was a description of what actually happens, it's not bull, quite the opposite.

It's not the welfare state in particular I have resentment for, it's the state in general. It's very existence is completely immoral.

Saying that I think the needy shouldn't get any help just because I recognise that the state do a crappy job of helping them is completely retarded.

Using violence to extract money from people is wrong, doesn't make a difference who does it or what their reasons are in my eyes.

You are completely aware that violence is used to extract money from innocent people by the state and you support it, you are nothing but a thieving scumbag bully. If it's okay for the state to steal and rob to pay for stuff their supporters request, then it should be okay for anyone to do the same. I honestly hope you are robbed blind for everything you own, maybe then you'll realise what it feels like for the millions who are robbed on a daily basis in your name.

I should have known it was a waste of time trying to debate with a fucking lefty, they're all the same: violent, theiving, stupid, ignorant cunts.

[Twichaldinho]

...I should have known it was a waste of time trying to debate with a fucking lefty, they're all the same: violent, theiving, stupid, ignorant cunts.

I suggest you go and sit in the corner for a while big fella.... I do believe any point you tried to make, has just been voided......

[25211]

Your choice of words makes it all BULL of the highest order
You obviously resent the idea of the welfare state and have decided to blame it for most of the ills in society
And your choice of words comes across as the sort of case made by the intellectually challenged low life scum for stealing and destroying people’s homes & livelihoods

I am only able to work thanks to the welfare state (working tax credits with the disability element), I only got my job through a local authority body whose role was to get people back in to work
Both my parents who have worked all their lives and done without themselves to provide for their children
Are now elderly & disabled & surprise surprise dependent on the welfare state
So I can only take it that neither I or my parents should get any help from your point of view

How any sane individual can blame the welfare state for the dire state of British society is beyond me

It is people with the attitude of I won’t use/don’t need X service or Y resource so why should I pay for it who are 100% to blame
And that is not a million miles away from the attitude of I haven’t got a big TV or the latest phone so let’s just go nick one

As I did say you are entitled to your opinion, but you are so wrong it is unbelievable

My choice of words was a description of what actually happens, it's not bull, quite the opposite.

It's not the welfare state in particular I have resentment for, it's the state in general. It's very existence is completely immoral.

Saying that I think the needy shouldn't get any help just because I recognise that the state do a crappy job of helping them is completely retarded.

Using violence to extract money from people is wrong, doesn't make a difference who does it or what their reasons are in my eyes.

You are completely aware that violence is used to extract money from innocent people by the state and you support it, you are nothing but a thieving scumbag bully. If it's okay for the state to steal and rob to pay for stuff their supporters request, then it should be okay for anyone to do the same. I honestly hope you are robbed blind for everything you own, maybe then you'll realise what it feels like for the millions who are robbed on a daily basis in your name.

I should have known it was a waste of time trying to debate with a fucking lefty, they're all the same: violent, theiving, stupid, ignorant cunts.

You are Margret Thatcher & I claim my £5

And from your postings your last statement applies to you more than any left winger I have ever met
which are you BNP or EDL?

[Mr_Gav]

...I should have known it was a waste of time trying to debate with a fucking lefty, they're all the same: violent, theiving, stupid, ignorant cunts.

I suggest you go and sit in the corner for a while big fella.... I do believe any point you tried to make, has just been voided......

I'm angry, he's saying that it's okay that I'm robbed on a daily basis by the state and even dared to suggest I am some kind of lowlife for not handing over the money with a smile. Sorry if I offended anyone other than those I intended to offend.