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Mr_Gav wrote:@ 25211 I made it pretty clear what I want, to live my life free from coercion and the same for everyone else, which part don't you understand?

I would understand that if you cared to explain without resort to exaggerated examples of the coercion to which you refer

Mr_Gav wrote:I said something you didn't like so you attacked me personally instead of attacking my argument. Debating with you is a waste of time, thought I made that pretty clear too.

I don’t recall attacking you personally at all, if you have taken offence at a relatively ambiguous statement that is your fault not mine

As I said I have seen no debate from you at all, you have failed to put your point & views across in a reasonable manner
And attacked me from your first response to my first post on this subject
And I assume unintentionally made it appear that because of style of posting to be condoning the actions of the looters & thugs of recent days

As a side not if you don’t like the system in the country you live in you have 3 options
1, move elsewhere
2, try to change it from within that system
3, put up with it, like most people do

what funny is people calling the cops Racist but again who bashing windows burning stuff and causing the problems?


3 out 4 ppl are of color in this picture!! shows how savage and uncivilized they are!! if this was here these ppl would be jailed and sent back to the country or jungle they came from or were the parents were from!! or Gaz them!

and YES we send people back to the origine country even if the person was born here! if parent werent born here ..well..75% chance your going back were you should of been born!! civillized ppl dont need ppl like this causing shit and making damage who going to pay for the damages they did? your TAXES!!!
Only 1 country gets it right and it Australia if you aint happy whit the imagration laws and other well you welcome to leave Ozland they dont take Bull shit they got a culture to KEEP! no religious ppl colored or whatev will change that there

Adamster wrote:what funny is people calling the cops Racist but again who bashing windows burning stuff and causing the problems?

3 out 4 ppl are of color in this picture!! shows how savage and uncivilized they are!! if this was here these ppl would be jailed and sent back to the country or jungle they came from or were the parents were from!! or Gaz them!

and YES we send people back to the origine country even if the person was born here! if parent werent born here ..well..75% chance your going back were you should of been born!! civillized ppl dont need ppl like this causing shit and making damage who going to pay for the damages they did? your TAXES!!!
Only 1 country gets it right and it Australia if you aint happy whit the imagration laws and other well you welcome to leave Ozland they dont take Bull shit they got a culture to KEEP! no religious ppl colored or whatev will change that there

Firstly, you can only see for sure the color of one of them.
Secondly, FUCK OFF, YOU IGNORANT PIECE OF RACIST SHIT!

Adamster wrote:

Nice thats me and my mates, welcome to England coz thats how it is now we are going for a Curry if ya get it Eskimo turd.

Whom ever calls other racist should look at themselfs let me guess your of colored tipycal of you colored ppl calling others racist and if you look at the picture in large format you would see that 3 out of the 4 stealling are of color

5 people in that picture

25211 wrote:I would understand that if you cared to explain without resort to exaggerated examples of the coercion to which you refer

I don't want to be forced to pay for wars that I find abhorent.
I don't want to be forced to pay police to track me down and lock me up for carrying the wrong kind of vegetation around with me.
I don't want to be forced to pay for one of the most inefficient and expensive health care services in the world.
I could go on all day, or just say I don't want to be the victim of any coercion whatsoever, I already said that and you can't understand, what more can I say?

25211 wrote:As a side not if you don’t like the system in the country you live in you have 3 options
1, move elsewhere
2, try to change it from within that system
3, put up with it, like most people do

Ok, by the same logic, to deal with the violence people accross the country have been a victim of the past few days they should,
1, move elswhere
2, join a gang and try to get them all to change
3, stop whining and put up with it.

This of course is completely rediculous, as is your statement.

You seem completely unable to get to grips with the fact that taxation is theft and the government rules through violence, yet you claim:

25211 wrote:I am fully aware of the wide range of the political spectrum, global politics, political history is an intrest of mine

Sorry but, I don't believe you. You are so propagandised that all that's left of your brain is a Labour party manifesto, that doesn't count as an education.

You support a system that borrows money that they use to go killing people in foreign countries, money that will be payed back by stealing from people in the future that haven't even been born yet. You are a lowlife scumbag and represent everything that is wrong with this world. You are a coward, you have others carry out violence on your behalf.

you ppl should take example of this couple why cause shit when you can make love and peace

Vancouver riot!!

Adamster wrote: and if you look at the picture in large format you would see that 3 out of the 4 stealling are of color

You can also see there are 5 people in the photo, unless one has grown 2 sets of feet
And no you can tell one is white & one is of colour (to use your words)
& 3 you cant tell as no flesh is showing

25211 wrote:

Adamster wrote: and if you look at the picture in large format you would see that 3 out of the 4 stealling are of color

You can also see there are 5 people in the photo, unless one has grown 2 sets of feet
And no you can tell one is white & one is of colour (to use your words)
& 3 you cant tell as no flesh is showing

you know i didnt see then legs.. afte komit said 5 i looked and still couldnt see it
did say i was blind? color that is i only see white and black (lol)
Besided that mystorie person i still see 3 none whites and 1 winger
like the saying monkey see monkey do! iv been part of riot and know how ppl fallow others its also why i dont care if you are 11 or 40 years old you should be goin to jail for destroying other ppl stuff! these children whom took part in this rioting they re parent should pays for letting them go riot and parents should be jailed ...like they do in the state ...i dont care if you got problem whit cop being racist not happy whit the gouvernment or whatever ...your a nation whom others look up 2 and at the end who gonna pay for the damages? YOU! the tax payer!

It amazes me. It really does. Fair enough right, there is a large section of these areas that are not white. So fucking what Adamster. 30 seconds of watching footage as it happend would have shown a plethora of skin colours. Fact..... These looters/rioters were a representation of the "underclass" in U.K...these folks ( probably me, and few of you reading this ) do not share one skin colour, we share one sentiment though. That is simple, the gap in society between the top o' the pile, and the rest left scrambeling is getting larger every day.... some would say, under the current regime, its only gonna get bigger, faster........ I have to add though, I think some of the more ethnicly diverse areas of the U.K ..do have genuine gripes with Police, and councellors...as a right milky white skinned barsteward, I dont feel quailified to even pretend to relate to the problems in comunities like these. But I do feel qualified to say more needs to be done....

Secondly. I abhore the scenes of looting and arson, especially when its places like ' Steve's books ' or the local ' Cut 'n curl '... if yer gonna get Violent, then you storm the people who matter, no? ...

And thirdly, when the Schools go back,you can take yer streets back...untill then, come to Scotland, we are more Civil up here

Mr_Gav wrote:Sorry but, I don't believe you. You are so propagandised that all that's left of your brain is a Labour party manifesto, that doesn't count as an education..

Sorry chap but you wrong again, that would still be to right wing for me

Mr_Gav wrote:You support a system that borrows money that they use to go killing people in foreign countries, money that will be payed back by stealing from people in the future that haven't even been born yet. You are a lowlife scumbag and represent everything that is wrong with this world. You are a coward, you have others carry out violence on your behalf.

I give up, I have no idea what planet you are on and now tend to agree with those on here that have suggested you have chip on your shoulder
resorting to personal attacks yet again just proves it
Just glad I don't live in your warped self centred world

So burn the rich!! burn the royals gouverment offices! not local stores who you dont know maybe the guy whit little store is living month by month pay check to pay check!!
the rich dont want to share its the problem we created and not in our home coutries but in india africa china.. and now its bitting us cause the rich dont want the aver person becoming rich..just like i was saying to a friend..we could stop famine in africa but..coutries like france Uk canada state ... dont want to stop them from being hungry..why? simple you feed these ppl next thing you know they want to be educated then once educated they want jobs then they ll want a nice home car fridge stove 2 car ...and so on ..basicly.. keep the poor poor or like china will happen were everyone how was starving have too much wasting started..they now have middle class were no even 15 years ago city like Shanghai you had 1 car per 10 bike now 10car per 1 bike! everyone has a car stove fridge = polution MEGA Problem! why? cause america made the problem cause they have to greedy to keep jobs in america and wanting CHEAP AND CHEAPER stuff made sold ...same whit india...i also why in next 20years english will be sur passe by Hiru (am i saying it right?) or simple chinese or some other chinese... and africa will raise from the 200 000 years famine will the rest of the world is goin DOWN!!

25211 wrote:Sorry chap but you wrong again, that would still be to right wing for me

That's my point proven that you don't understand the difference between right and left wing, or are even aware of the other ends of the political spectrum.

Mr_Gav wrote:

25211 wrote:Sorry chap but you wrong again, that would still be to right wing for me

That's my point proven that you don't understand the difference between right and left wing, or are even aware of the other ends of the political spectrum.

One last try
How does that prove your point??
All I said was that the UK Labour Party is far to right wing for me
I can see no way that it demonstrates I don't know the difference between the political left & right
Just that My politics are further left then the labour party