blck hashes blonde hashes ice hashes...whats the difference?

[bergerman1987]

what is the best kind of hash to buy im the dam???
what is the difference in the effect of blonde hasha nd black hash and ice hash???
ihave had some blonde hash before but only smoked hash about 3 or 4 times hard to get ahold of out here.

thanks for input on this

[StonedSince67]

blck hashes blonde hashes ice hashes...whats the difference?

this is my simple view ...

black hashes usually come from the high mountain areas of afghanistan, pakistan and nepal ... they are usually made by the hand-rubbing method ... i find black hashes to be a very sleepy dozy kind of stone and i usually don't smoke these until later in the day

blonde hashes usually come from morocco or lebanon (in the old days) ... they are usually made by thrashing the stalks against a fine-mesh screen and the trichomes fall through and then are collected and pressed ... i find blonde hashes to be buzzy and lighter in effect and can smoke these from the morning through the day

ice hashes can come from anywhere in the world ... they are made by chilling the weed in ice water to separate and then filter out the trichomes from the plant ... i find ice hashes to be very strong

[doolish]

Do you know why the different production methods produce different results?

[geekymonkey]

Do you mean why they produce different results in terms of effect?

My understanding is that that has more to do with the kinds of plants that are being used than the actual production method.

[Iko]

Black hash can be Indica or Sativa, but in general ( exceptions to every rule ), black hashes are much stronger than blonde hashes.
Ice hashes can be stronger still, but not always, as stated it depends what plants were used and how good the plants were.
Some ice hashes have little to no taste, some are a complete and utter rip off ( 20eu for a .4 gram at Bluebird last year, and it did not hold a candle to the Riffman hash at Dampkring that was 13eu per gram ).
Alot of places ( Dampkring for an example ) label the menu with the type of effect you can expect from the hash; ie Stoned ( indica ), High ( sativa ).
I prefer not to be smoking Indica before dinner as it zaps my energy and makes me pretty lazy, not a bad thing on vacation but it has a way of making you not take that train, bike ride, boat or tour and before you know it your vacation is over and you have not left Centrum .

[SmokeyMcDougal]

Things that make every hash unique:

1) Strain - depending on what strain of herb is used to make the hash, you'll get a different high, flavour (and maybe texture). Traditionally, imported light hashes tend to be Moroccan (or Lebanese), made from sativa-leaning strains (though this isn't always the case these days); and imported black hashes tend to be from India, Afghanistan, Nepal etc, made from indica-leaning strains (generally speaking)

2) Harvest time - this is of HUGE importance in hash making. If trichomes are collected while the plant is still alive, it has a very different effect to hash made from dried plants. Traditional moroccan hashes are made from sun-dried plants, which give it a unique flavour and high (usually comparatively mild). Real charas (hand-rubbed Himalyan hash) is made from trichomes taken off living (sometimes immature) plants - this gives it that incredible uplifting high (even though these plants are often indicas). A real Manali Cream or Nepalese Temple Ball is a truly sensational, intense buzz. On the other hand, modern style nederhashes tend to be taken from plants that have been harvested in the usual indoor way, using leftovers from buds etc. These sorts of bubblehashes IMO are the closest in similarity to the plants they were made from. I find that a bit boring, but some people love em.

3) Extraction method - the way the trichomes are collected also has an effect on the hash. Sifted hash (shaken through a screen etc like most moroccans) can sometimes contain a fair amount of plant material, making the buzz a bit less intense. Though if a particularly fine screen is used (00 for example) only the juiciest trichomes make it through, ensuring a quality high. Hand collected charas hash is basically the stickiest resin, rubbed straight off the buds, usually with some random detritus mixed in, but of extremely high quality. Modern methods like iceolaters, bubblebags, BHO and iso all produce different results too - most notably in terms of flavour, as the different extraction methods all remove/preserve different terpenes from the plants.

4) Processing method - unpressed, fresh trichomes tend to be blonde-ish in colour with a slightly lighter buzz. When trichomes are squished, the oil comes out and makes them sticky. With the application of heat/pressure/air/light oily trichomes then turn dark in colour. So black hash is made from more heavily processed trichomes - which can have varying effects. When trichomes are burst and become sticky, they burn more readily/efficiently and give a more impactful high - but they can also degrade faster as their oils are exposed.

5) Curing and storage - as above, dark hashes are basically made from burst trichomes so need to be cured properly for effective preservation. Once these trichomes are exposed, their chemical composition alters. Well cured black hashes can go from being a strong up buzz to a devastating, deep stone; or they can stay as close to their original state as desired. Traditional storage methods can also add unique flavours - a whiff of leather tends to promise authenticity. Unpressed or lightly pressed light hashes are a bit more forgiving, as some of the trichomes will still be intact. I tend to hand rub these sorts of hashes myself just before smoking.


Or something like that

[Iko]

Great read smokey; thanks.

[Cisco]

Great post SmokeyM couldn't have put it better myself

[Badonkadonk]

That was very interesting to read, Smokey. Thanks for the information!

[geekymonkey]

Thanks Smokey! Great info.

I think that also answers the mystery (to me) of why you can eat plain hash. (I could never figure out when the chemical change was occurring that made the cannabanoids into cannabanol your body can actually absorb.)

[Panog]

Thanks Smokey! Great info.

I think that also answers the mystery (to me) of why you can eat plain hash. (I could never figure out when the chemical change was occurring that made the cannabanoids into cannabanol your body can actually absorb.)

You can't eat plain hash people who told you that are liars or subjects to the placebo effect, maybe if you eat 5g you'll get a slight buzz and again I'm not sure.
The only way to eat hash and get wasted is to crumble into powder about .5g of hash, then mix it with cooking oil in a spoon, eat the oil with a lighter but stop as soon as it boils, then do it again 4/5 times.
Your hash should now have totally dissolved into the oil, so mix it with something fat (a chocolate yoghourt, cream, ...), stir, let sit for 5mn then eat it, wait for 30mn, you're wasted !
If you have BHO do this with it, but be careful, .2g is largely enough for a newbie

[Panog]

Oh and before people tell me "yes you can eat plain hash I did it...." and other bullshit, I once took the same amount of the same hash, one day mixed straight in a fat yoghourt, and the day after boiled in the oil then mixed in a yoghourt.
On the first day I had no effect at all. The second day I was wasted from 11AM to 8PM

[hasj]

It must be something to do with your digestive system as I and many people I know eat hash and it works wonderfully.

[hasj]

I particularly remember eating 1 gram of polm before leaving Amsterdam on a coach. On the ferry I was so wasted and it didn't completely wear off for at least 24 hours.

[Panog]

Maybe, but next time try to eat half this amount with my method, you'll be at least twice more wasted