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wow twich. I dont know enough about cooking with it. I think I will stick to the cookies and brownies. lol

cattales1960 wrote:wow twich. I dont know enough about cooking with it. I think I will stick to the cookies and brownies. lol

The easiest way to use BHO, is just smoke it with the nail, through a specific bong, then clean that bong with Iso Alchohol, and use the sludge that comes out of it to cook with. Since you have already heated treated the BHO, it is now perfectly safe to cook with.

Twichaldinho wrote: For the benifit of yer health, you may like to read this thread...
https://tokecity.com/forums/showthread. ... ooking+bho

There was nothing in that thread that claimed it was bad for your health, just that it would not work well without heating- were you perhaps thinking of a different thread?

Thanks for the link, though, it was really interesting. I'm currently wracking my brain and poking around to find out if the higher temperature actually achieves anything different than the 20 minutes of slower "cooking," which I'm pretty sure achieves the same decarboxylation, and the doses of terminator oil that I made in the water bath did start to take effect in the more rapid 20-30 minute time-frame they were claiming from the cooked oil. I'm also really surprised that the thc isn't evaporating out of their oil at 390 degree Fahrenheit.

Twitch, do you happen to remember any claims about why it's unhealthy? I can imagine there might be a concern from ingesting residual butane, but given the really low evaporation point of butane, that doesn't seem likely to be a problem...

Love this board, always so interesting.

Fo the life of me, I can't remember the exact thread/threads I read it in....but I can wholeheartedly say, I read it more than once, and that decarboxylation is super important when making BHO into edibles. I suppose google could help me, but I'm watching the footie, so you can do that yerself

thanks eddie. thats a good site. Easy to understand.

Great video, Eddie, and yay, I think I'm starting to get this.

According to the video, decarboxylization occurs at 140 degrees C to 190 degrees C. 158 degrees centigrade is the peak carboxylization temperature. But it's delicate working in that range, as you start loosing your THC up in smoke at 190 degree c.

So, this made me realize that it was actually the first step of my process, that I didn't describe above that's actually key, as the water-bath is a little cool (temp runs at a fairly stable 100 degrees C). (It works well for pot butter intended for baking as the baking does have time to complete the sluggish carboxylization).

I was heating my oil before I mixed it with the jelly, to just below it's smoke point (about 205 'C) and letting it cool just a few minutes before I mixed it with the bho and put it in the water bath, which starts my process out at probably about 185 degrees C, and the oil actually cools slowly though the 20 minutes.

Also, I'm quite sure that the absence of other kinds of plant matter, and therefor the ease with which bho achieves suspension in water mean that it will all convert faster than if you're talking about baking a whole bud...

Next time I think I'll go for straight in a saucepan, with a thermometer, as I'm curious to see if it's different, or if I'm right that I got the whole shebang.

Fun stuff. Thanks everyone!

The water-bath method I described will definitely achieve decarboxylization, but probably not full because the temp is a bit low. Because of the small quantity, Panog's spoon method should work as well, although if you put a ton on the spoon you might miss some of it.

Cisco, I'm sorry, I was thinking of Birdy's jelley has when I was thinking of that price/dose.

It's more like 5-6 doses from 1/4 gram, so if you're using dam-priced jelly, closer to 5euro/ dose, but you do get a much longer- lasting high from a joint, about 3 times as long, so I'd still say it's worth it.

Does eating other food on top of the cannabis brownies (or whatever you've cooked) affect the high?

Found another site

http://www.ediblemj.com/

Cant wait to make the rice krispie treats