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Controversy Corner - NB: Do not read if easily offended!

Posted: Mon 28th Nov 2011 12:09 pm
by CannaSir
Ok, I've been guilty of it on here and others have been slagged off right royally for it: introducing political or other controversies into threads elsewhere on this forum intended for discussion of all things cannabis. I undertake that I will not do that again. Instead, if I feel the need I will post here instead and link the original thread to it for those that wish to read it.

I invite all and any to use this thread who wish to comment on a matter that, whilst arguably relevant to the weed topic in hand, is, strictly speaking, political or religious in nature (or anything else that could be called 'controversial). I think this could function as a rant space but also as a place for intelligent argument if people so wish. Whatever! :shock: :lol:

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Re: Controversy Corner - NB: Do not read if easily offended!

Posted: Mon 28th Nov 2011 12:21 pm
by Boner
The problem with these sorts of threads is they near enough always lead to people being nasty to each other and that just goes against Lemmings Golden Rule.

Re: Controversy Corner - NB: Do not read if easily offended!

Posted: Mon 28th Nov 2011 01:04 pm
by Old Timer
I have to agree with Boner.
There is no reason for a Coffeeshop Directory/cannabis forum to have a place for political discussion. There are plenty of political forums for those who wish to partake in such discussions.
As Boner said, it will nearly always lead to people being nasty to each other.

I do feel that moderators need to moderate (that's why they are moderators) when people introduce politics, the rules should be clear to all, and all messages that break the rule should be deleted.

Messages like the one Adamster wrote, are way more offensive and cause way more problems than the spam messages that are moderated/deleted.

Re: Controversy Corner - NB: Do not read if easily offended!

Posted: Mon 28th Nov 2011 01:05 pm
by CannaSir
Oh dear! I had the (clearly naive) idea that people might discuss stuff intelligently! :o

Re: Controversy Corner - NB: Do not read if easily offended!

Posted: Mon 28th Nov 2011 01:08 pm
by CannaSir
Boner - no argument from me if you wanna just delete this thread m8. I think it's somewhat disappointing that the 'Other' section should be censored but, hey, no worries if it is so!

Re: Controversy Corner - NB: Do not read if easily offended!

Posted: Mon 28th Nov 2011 01:12 pm
by Old Timer
CannaSir wrote:Oh dear! I had the (clearly naive) idea that people might discuss stuff intelligently! :o
Please explain what is unintelligent about my response?

Go have a look at Channels Forum, you will see what happens when nothing is moderated and political discussions are allowed everywhere. Once upon a time it was also a cannabis/coffeeshop/Amsterdam related forum.
All it is now is a slanging match between nearly all it's members, very little left there that actually relates to cannabis, coffeeshops, or Amsterdam.

Re: Controversy Corner - NB: Do not read if easily offended!

Posted: Mon 28th Nov 2011 01:41 pm
by Boner
What's been censored? I never edit/delete anything, if I see something and think it's wrong I'll just say so, (if anyone is ever offended by something a poster writes let me know via pm and I'll have a word).

Re: Controversy Corner - NB: Do not read if easily offended!

Posted: Mon 28th Nov 2011 01:49 pm
by dpgsoulja89
Boner wrote:What's been censored? I never edit/delete anything, if I see something and think it's wrong I'll just say so, (if anyone is ever offended by something a poster writes let me know via pm and I'll have a word).
Have a word?are you the al capone of the coffeeshop directory? :lol:
all these "moderators" with there superiority complexes makes me laugh of loud lol
oh wait here comes a witty reply that will "put me in my place"
some people just have to much free time on there hands.

Re: Controversy Corner - NB: Do not read if easily offended!

Posted: Mon 28th Nov 2011 02:04 pm
by spidergawd
Old Timer wrote:I have to agree with Boner.
There is no reason for a Coffeeshop Directory/cannabis forum to have a place for political discussion. There are plenty of political forums for those who wish to partake in such discussions.
As Boner said, it will nearly always lead to people being nasty to each other.

I do feel that moderators need to moderate (that's why they are moderators) when people introduce politics, the rules should be clear to all, and all messages that break the rule should be deleted.

Messages like the one Adamster wrote, are way more offensive and cause way more problems than the spam messages that are moderated/deleted.
Are you volunteering to be Censor in Chief then. No intellectual discussion or difficult exchange of views was ever enhanced by suppression.
Occasionally a thread kicks off but usually somebody throws a metaphorical bucket of cold water on it and it fizzles out.

Happy trails cats :D :D.

Re: Controversy Corner - NB: Do not read if easily offended!

Posted: Mon 28th Nov 2011 02:07 pm
by StonedSince67
i think my recollection of historical matters is correct ...

a couple of years ago lemming did create a separate forum for arguments where members could create separate threads for different topics for full and frank discussions

it was the behaviour displayed in the threads of this forum that soon led lemming to remove the entire forum and all the threads

and then lemming's golden rule was brought to everyone's attention

in my view it is lemming's golden rule that enables this forum to be different and more civilised than other forums, it simply states that it is ok to respond to and challenge posters' ideas but it is not ok to attack posters themselves

Re: Controversy Corner - NB: Do not read if easily offended!

Posted: Mon 28th Nov 2011 02:11 pm
by Old Timer
StonedSince'67 wrote:i think my recollection of historical matters is correct ...

a couple of years ago lemming did create a separate forum for arguments where members could create separate threads for different topics for full and frank discussions

it was the behaviour displayed in the threads of this forum that soon led lemming to remove the entire forum and all the threads

and then lemming's golden rule was brought to everyone's attention

in my view it is lemming's golden rule that enables this forum to be different and more civilised than other forums, it simply states that it is ok to respond to and challenge posters' ideas but it is not ok to attack posters themselves
So, in your opinion, how do Adamster's comments from the thread below fit into that?
Should they or should they not be allowed?
https://www.coffeeshopdirect.com/forum/viewt ... 18&t=19238

Re: Controversy Corner - NB: Do not read if easily offended!

Posted: Mon 28th Nov 2011 02:15 pm
by 2rollingstoned
I'm all for freedom of speech and discussing what you want, but this is the one place I can come to that I laugh reading stories and enjoy the mellow vibe of the forum in general. I've been on forums where all that mad snarking, growling and bitching at each other is the norm but quite frankly its exhausting reading grown ass adults type a bunch of hateful shit at each other like they are still in middle school. Lack of drama keeps me coming back here.

Peace and pot :lol:

Edit:
I read the thread posted above and I gotta say I don't think that kind of shit belongs here. There is enough hate and ugliness in the world without inviting it here.

Re: Controversy Corner - NB: Do not read if easily offended!

Posted: Mon 28th Nov 2011 02:26 pm
by Old Timer
2rollingstoned wrote: Edit:
I read the thread posted above and I gotta say I don't think that kind of shit belongs here. There is enough hate and ugliness in the world without inviting it here.
If we had a poll, I'm sure that most of us would agree that responses like Adamster's, have no place here, or anywhere else for that matter.

Re: Controversy Corner - NB: Do not read if easily offended!

Posted: Mon 28th Nov 2011 02:34 pm
by DazedandConfusedinOR
Oh please! No one follows any sort of "golden rule" on here! Hahaha :twisted:

Re: Controversy Corner - NB: Do not read if easily offended!

Posted: Mon 28th Nov 2011 03:17 pm
by Boner
dpgsoulja89 wrote:
Boner wrote:What's been censored? I never edit/delete anything, if I see something and think it's wrong I'll just say so, (if anyone is ever offended by something a poster writes let me know via pm and I'll have a word).
Have a word?are you the al capone of the coffeeshop directory? :lol:
all these "moderators" with there superiority complexes makes me laugh of loud lol
oh wait here comes a witty reply that will "put me in my place"
some people just have to much free time on there hands.
Just trying to keep the peace and yes I do have too much spare time but I dont really see what thats got to do with anything, like I mentioned earlier I dont edit, censor or delete anything anyone writes, at absolute worse I'll normally drop them a pm asking them for example "to bite their tongue for the sake of peace."

Re: the Israel thread I only ever saw the first post, Adamster's a troll and people should just ignore him and if you have a problem get in touch with Lemming as he's the only person who should decide what to do, I can only 'moderate' the other section btw.