American Presidential candidates?
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- Twichaldinho
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American Presidential candidates?
Are they all as feckless as they appear? Please enlighten/educate me. As from where I'm looking, they are all freaks....how can anyone vote for any of them? Including the current prez.
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Re: American Presidential candidates?
There are no registered candidates that can unseat President Obama, unless he and/or his Administration do something horrendously stupid.
As for the Repuglican Candidates, they are a hopeless bunch. Of the four (Romney, Gingrich, Paul, Santorum), one is an under-taxed investment capitalist, one is a bible thumping adulterer, and the rest, why bother. There are other registered candidates but they haven't made the "big time", meaning national news coverage (Roehmer for one).
On the occasion that I listen to what they have to say, the only thing I hear is fear, contempt, and hatred. What's disturbing to me is that millions of Americans seem to support their way of thinking, quite disturbing indeed.
Looking ahead to 2016, who will step out and up? An Independent perhaps?
...time will tell.
As for the Repuglican Candidates, they are a hopeless bunch. Of the four (Romney, Gingrich, Paul, Santorum), one is an under-taxed investment capitalist, one is a bible thumping adulterer, and the rest, why bother. There are other registered candidates but they haven't made the "big time", meaning national news coverage (Roehmer for one).
On the occasion that I listen to what they have to say, the only thing I hear is fear, contempt, and hatred. What's disturbing to me is that millions of Americans seem to support their way of thinking, quite disturbing indeed.
Looking ahead to 2016, who will step out and up? An Independent perhaps?
...time will tell.
- bigjames420
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I would encourage you to take a much closer look at Ron Paul. I agree that all you get from the other candidates is fear, contempt and hatred. Not from Ron Paul though. He's the only politician I've ever seen whom I agree with everything he says. That includes not just presidential candidates, but local politicians, libertarians and everything else...and I consider myself to be a libertarian. I've never once voted for a Republican or Democrat for president and I've voted in 4 presidential elections. Really, he's not a career politician, he's a doctor who's delivered several thousand babies.Uncle Ron wrote:There are no registered candidates that can unseat President Obama, unless he and/or his Administration do something horrendously stupid.
As for the Repuglican Candidates, they are a hopeless bunch. Of the four (Romney, Gingrich, Paul, Santorum), one is an under-taxed investment capitalist, one is a bible thumping adulterer, and the rest, why bother. There are other registered candidates but they haven't made the "big time", meaning national news coverage (Roehmer for one).
On the occasion that I listen to what they have to say, the only thing I hear is fear, contempt, and hatred. What's disturbing to me is that millions of Americans seem to support their way of thinking, quite disturbing indeed.
Looking ahead to 2016, who will step out and up? An Independent perhaps?
...time will tell.
Ron Paul is also the only candidate who doesn't want to start a war with Iran. We don't need any more wars...not only are they unnecessary, we can't afford them any more. This is probably why he's gotten more donations from members of the military than all the other candidates combined(including Obama).
The big thing for this board is that he's the only candidate who would do anything to further the cause of decriminalization/legalization of marijuana at a federal level, which Obama sure hasn't done. It amazes me the amount of negativity I've seen towards him in the couple of threads regarding him on this forum. The only thing the establishment can find to smear him with is a few of his newsletters that contained some racist remarks. Of course, he didn't write those columns, he was just an editor of said newsletters. It's also important to point out that there were something like 240+ issues of this newsletter and only a couple of issues contained remarks that could be considered racist.
The bottom line is that he's the only candidate who really believes in the US Constitution and always tries to follow it's guidelines in everything he does in his political career. Unfortunately the media will continue to ignore and ridicule him and a majority of people will simply believe what they see on the news instead of actually looking at his record.
Now that I've stated my case I expect several members here will bash Ron Paul and myself for supporting him and that's fine. After all, opinions are like assholes.
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- bigjames420
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Re: American Presidential candidates?
Twichaldinho wrote:Ron Paul does not believe in evolution. WT goddam F
Yeah, he's a Christian and believes in creationism. Actually, I think any candidate that stood up and stated that he believed in evolution would have no chance of being elected POTUS. The US is still comprised of a strongly evangelical base of older voters. Of course, this could be changing as those older voters are continuing to age and the younger voters aren't quite so stuck on religion I think.
However, Ron Paul doesn't believe in forcing his beliefs on other people. Like I said before, he's pretty strict on the constitution and the bill of rights, which means he's all for freedom of religion and will always back that rather than supporting something just because it aligns with his own religious beliefs. I know a couple of gay men that live in my area and support Ron Paul(actually this is the only reason I'm acquainted with them), their take on him is that "Yeah, he doesn't like gay people, but he believes in leaving us alone and letting us do our own thing." The whole evolution/creation thing fits in the same way. Yeah, he doesn't believe in evolution, but he believes in allowing people the freedom to hold whatever beliefs they want.
Besides, what he believes about the origin of our planet and species doesn't have anything to do with how he'd lead in our current society.
Definitely a valid point though.
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- redeyezman
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@Big James
Nice to see another Ron Paul supporter on the forums! So few voters want to take the large amount of time it takes to become educated on the issues. I commend you good sir!
@Uncle Ron
Their hasn't been a politrick like this in either of our lifes. The Richard Nixon rabbit hole goes so deep.....Is it so amazing that in a time like this a good man accidentally ends up in public service?
Nice to see another Ron Paul supporter on the forums! So few voters want to take the large amount of time it takes to become educated on the issues. I commend you good sir!
@Uncle Ron
Their hasn't been a politrick like this in either of our lifes. The Richard Nixon rabbit hole goes so deep.....Is it so amazing that in a time like this a good man accidentally ends up in public service?
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Re: American Presidential candidates?
Although mostly level-headed, Ron Paul isn't the one.
He is the modernist, the progressive in the field, always has been. He is in the wrong party because he is too moderate.
Moderate among the conservatives is the new word for liberalism.
President Obama may be a registered Democrat, but he is more of a liberal Repuglican given his moderate right leaning policies.
It's been a long time since a real Democrat sat in the White House, since at least FDR, although kudos to Kennedy and Clinton.
Lastly, I don't think a true liberal Democrat will ever be elected President mainly because there are/will be too many compromises made. The right on the other hand will talk a good game to appease the poor, but in the end they serve the Capitalist.
A new cry being heard in America is "Who represents the poor"? The answer to this rhetorical question is NOBODY! The poor can't afford it.
Unfortunately the next class war is going to be very bloody. The wealthy control the govt., the govt. controls law enforcement, law enforcement tries to control society.
NEXT...
He is the modernist, the progressive in the field, always has been. He is in the wrong party because he is too moderate.
Moderate among the conservatives is the new word for liberalism.
President Obama may be a registered Democrat, but he is more of a liberal Repuglican given his moderate right leaning policies.
It's been a long time since a real Democrat sat in the White House, since at least FDR, although kudos to Kennedy and Clinton.
Lastly, I don't think a true liberal Democrat will ever be elected President mainly because there are/will be too many compromises made. The right on the other hand will talk a good game to appease the poor, but in the end they serve the Capitalist.
A new cry being heard in America is "Who represents the poor"? The answer to this rhetorical question is NOBODY! The poor can't afford it.
Unfortunately the next class war is going to be very bloody. The wealthy control the govt., the govt. controls law enforcement, law enforcement tries to control society.
NEXT...
- spidergawd
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Go Roseane
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/0 ... 52148.html
So whats all this about then? I dont know why the greens would put up a Presidential candidate with all the cost involved. Why dont they concentrate on maintaining a solid base at grassroots level as it were, and having influence in that way.
I thought she was great in the TV series
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/0 ... 52148.html
So whats all this about then? I dont know why the greens would put up a Presidential candidate with all the cost involved. Why dont they concentrate on maintaining a solid base at grassroots level as it were, and having influence in that way.
I thought she was great in the TV series
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In my opinion the process is not democratic because a national candidate is vetted through the caucus results in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina (disputably Florida, Nevada) and is therefore not representative a majority of the nations citizens (New York and California for example). Couple this with the two party system which is easily manipulated by the Status Quo riche and the result is less a democracy and more like a mockery. The results are not all bad as the Satirical American Political Comedy Industry is thriving with material practically writing itself.
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+1ed the head wrote:In my opinion the process is not democratic because a national candidate is vetted through the caucus results in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina (disputably Florida, Nevada) and is therefore not representative a majority of the nations citizens (New York and California for example). Couple this with the two party system which is easily manipulated by the Status Quo riche and the result is less a democracy and more like a mockery. The results are not all bad as the Satirical American Political Comedy Industry is thriving with material practically writing itself.
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- cattales1960
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Twich, the problem is alot of people in the USA are not educated about politics. They go by all the mud sligging ADs that are shown and do not educate themselves before the election. I do not like to start debates (that turn into fights sometimes) over politics, but the right side promotes family and christianity. They throw alot of lies about about the left side and alot of their followers beleive this garbage. I want CLinton back. Who do I have to blow to get that done. ROFL.
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