Personal growers now face less punishment in the UK!

[CHELSEA_SMOKERS_SOCIETY]

A huge step in the right direction for us in the UK!!!

whilst this is not actually decriminalisation for personal growing, its closer to it, which is a step toward cutting out dealers, gangstas and the bad side of the cannabis world.

this is the new sentencing guidline that the courts will use as of tomorrow (27/01/12) for drugs offences. skip to page 17, and read through.

http://sentencingcouncil.judiciary.gov. ... _(web).pdf

on page twenty, there is a chart which states that the sentance for someone guilty of growing '9 or less plants' with a 'lesser role' (ie; 100% for self consumption), then a sentence some where between 'dischargement and a medium level community order' should be given.

its a start!!!! my god it might be a start!!!!!!!

[moogle]

Thanks for posting this man, Very informative!

[Boner]

http://www.release.org.uk/comment/375-h ... s-offences

[spidergawd]

http://www.release.org.uk/comment/375-h ... s-offences

Thanks for that Boner, it has cooled my initial optimism a touch, but it's good to see it on the page as it were.

By the way Release is a good organisation been around since the 60's. If you put yourself about a bit, or your local plod are shitheads it's a good number to have on your mob.

Personally living in London and not putting myself about much I've never felt any pressure, but I did get busted once about 1972 in York and Release I'm sure saved me from a fit up.

I was being leery in the pub and the cops knew I was the only one around with puff but when they busted the place I was staying later, (early call ) it wasn't actually about my person as it were, but that was not going to deter the DS from their nights catch; but I had the Release number and in one bound I was free. Heres the punch line. While we were in the interview room myself and girlfriend who was lifted also were getting a strong smell of cannabis and there in the corner of the room were 2 bin bags most definitely containing some poor sods harvest. The DS must have thought they were on a roll.
However by about 10am me and lady are back out in the free world, thank you Release who had their local contact on the case, and apart from no blow, no harm done and a story to tell. No blow I say, well down the park feeling a bit glum and this lovely girl reaches into her hippy bag and produces a handful of "some poor sods harvest".
Friend whoever you are who grew it, and it was nice, thank you.

[A Leprechaun]

Well since we are talking about optimism,Cameron,when questioned re advertising for gambling,was quoted as saying it is an industry,and so it should be regulated,imho the growing selling and consumption of cannabis is also an industry,my opinion on how it is regulated no doubt would disagree with the tory boy but I reckon it could be used to throw it back in his face,small steps tiptoeing forwards may be the way forward.Money talks and people mumble will be more of a mantra in the coming years.

[not uber alles]

Having just read those guidelines, I wonder if it would be a good idea to approach the police myself and declare an intention to grow a few plants for my own personal consumption.
The guidelines make it clear that people who are upstanding citizens who grown only for their own pleasure and have a mitigating factor ( such as being a primary carer) will be discharged.
This describes me really. I'm a professional person, never been in any trouble, and have a profoundly disabled daughter. I smoke at night to relax and save me from the likelihood of having a breakdown from trying to look after a small child with a life limiting disorder .
In short I would be discharged in the event of any raid etc, and given that it would be in nobody's best interest to waste police time and resources on an inevitable discharge, it would be in the polices interest to ignore it.
But, it would be still a concern and the last thing I'd want is the police turning up upsetting my family. So, if I approached them and informed them of my intentions and that they were welcome to come to my house normally, not with riot van and check that I'm not flouting any of the guidelines and have too much weed etc then I do wonder if they'd be open to the idea.

[Boner]

I wouldn't tell them outiright but it might be worth making an anonymous phonecall (from a phonebox) and see what they say, they may come back and say if they knew they'd have to do something, another option is to tell your GP just so it's on your medical record.

[Prestoned]

Would those numbers be per person or per property? For example, multiple people in a shared house each with their own bedroom percy tent? I remember something about joint enterprise or something. About to look through the PDF again.

Surely it would be per person as one person could have multiple properties.

[ftcarer]

Having just read those guidelines, I wonder if it would be a good idea to approach the police myself and declare an intention to grow a few plants for my own personal consumption.
The guidelines make it clear that people who are upstanding citizens who grown only for their own pleasure and have a mitigating factor ( such as being a primary carer) will be discharged.
This describes me really. I'm a professional person, never been in any trouble, and have a profoundly disabled daughter. I smoke at night to relax and save me from the likelihood of having a breakdown from trying to look after a small child with a life limiting disorder .
In short I would be discharged in the event of any raid etc, and given that it would be in nobody's best interest to waste police time and resources on an inevitable discharge, it would be in the polices interest to ignore it.
But, it would be still a concern and the last thing I'd want is the police turning up upsetting my family. So, if I approached them and informed them of my intentions and that they were welcome to come to my house normally, not with riot van and check that I'm not flouting any of the guidelines and have too much weed etc then I do wonder if they'd be open to the idea.

I think your mitigating factors would help you to an extent lesser charge/discharged , you may even get away with say , police at your door for an unrelated matter , neighbour dispute / car accident whatever , they see what i'm assuming to be a house with adaptions ? , "who's are they" , "daughters , i'm her carer" , you forgot a half smoked J in the ashtray , they see it , can't miss it , but taking in your circumstances & given that your not related to what they are there for , your not known to them as trouble , no calls " not uber alles is doing this , people in & out the house at all hours " been there , been through it , got through it you may get a by the book the book copper , every offence must be punished , you never know
You tell them your gonna grow , they will nick you , they have to , some may risk "sorry I missed it " to give some of us a break, but I don't think many would risk the possible shit storm of " well they told me they were going grow a few MJ plants for themselves & I just thought fuck it , let them get on with it " Do not tell them don't tell anyone
Read , start with a filter & be SAFE

1 carer to another I wish you nothing but the best , it is not easy at times , stress is a right mindfucker look after yourself , you know how important YOU are tbh I find that the most stressful part 1 of the reason's I love DAM , i'm just me all the best to your family I know there is only so much help out there but I do hope someone is helping your family to help your daughter suffer as little as possible