Amber indica's

[Xplore]

Like most of you might know, most strains you find in the coffeeshops are harvested (too) early and are not cured at all. Especially if you like indica's, this might be some kind of an inconvenience... I really like ripened indica's with amber trichomes. Did somebody find a nice batch of this kind of stuff lately in Amsterdam? (the pictures of the OG18 from Utopia made me decide to start this topic). Katsu used to have a batch of cured Sage (mostly sativa) which was really nice aswell...

[qwr]

Hey men

Great idea with this thread.
The last really good indicas what i've bought was Holy Grail Kush from grey area and Rabbis Daughter from voyagers.
I hope that Og 18 is now often at utopia. looks a lot more amber then grey areas and voyagers version/cut.
I give a feedback when i've tried it hope i happens quickly.

[Uncle Ron]

"...are not cured at all."

Nothing else needs to be said.
Next...

[RvanSteensel]

Club Media does a good grow , almost all bio , and cured .
List of indicas seems never ending also

[felixxy]

Believe me, and try Boerejongens

@ Uncle Ron: Would you say that an amber colour is a sign that the weed hasn't been cured or what do you want to tell us?

[Cisco]

Mmmmm I think someone is mixing up pistil and trichome colour again

As far as I'm aware the pic of the OG18 from Utopia wasn't close enough to see trichome colour ? (the real indication of ripeness) not the colour of pistils

[Puppa Ruff]

an amber colour is a sign of a plant allowed to ripen in the ground. peoples opinions/tastes vary on how much % of thrichs allow ta go amber/brown but at least 50% seems a good mean.

rule of thumb is:

> more white > heady buzz, can also turn unpleasant
> more brown > body stone, cat soporific

DISCLAIMER: I thinks!

edit: Cisco, ye're right. i think

[Bob2]

the odds of them growing to get better buds and more red trichs are very remote (its about turnover and money)
utopias bud has a 1 month cure (not sure on new strains though)..

[USbongLord]

I think the op hasn't a clue IMHO...too much non knowledge for me to comprehend

[Uncle Ron]

Believe me, and try Boerejongens
@ Uncle Ron: Would you say that an amber colour is a sign that the weed hasn't been cured or what do you want to tell us?

Answer to the first part - no, I would not say that amber colored trichomes are a sign that the weed hasn't been cured. I just wouldn't...
What I would say is...
... that the trichomes begin turning from clear to opaque to amber during the later stages of flowering, and not typically associated with the cure.
... that under-cured weed typically doesn't burn very well (because it's damp), and usually but not always resulting in black ash.
... that I prefer to harvest my plants when the ratio of clear to opaque is 50/50, no amber trichomes.
When the cure is at a point where I begin to enjoy the smoke, typically three to four weeks, there are very few, if any, amber trichomes.
I've shared my bud with many peeps and none have ever mentioned that it was under cured.
Quite the opposite in fact, that it was quite lovely, hence why I sometimes refer to bud as The Lovely.

So many references to list, one that immediately comes to mind is Jorge Cervantes.

Answer to the second part - I don't want to tell anyone anything. I was pointing out the following...
"... most strains you find in the coffeeshops are harvested (too) early and are not cured at all."
Everyone has an opinion, you have yours, I have a different one. To each their own...

Happy trails...

[Xplore]

Hey guys, thnx for the replies. The opening post might be a bit clumsy, I did not mean to mix up the colour of the trichomes and curing per se, it should have been 2 different questions.

In the picture of the OG18 I mentioned you can not see the trichomes themselves, but you can see the 'red glow', which can also be the lights when the picture was taken of course.

Stil, if anybody finds a batch of Indica with amber trichomes, and/or a batch that seems to have had a long cure, please let me know

As for the non knowledge, that might be true, I only tried to describe what I like, but you are welcome to correct me with the right technical terminology and knowledge.

[USbongLord]

Purchase the growers bible,it has the correct terminology

[Uncle Ron]

Hey guys, thnx for the replies. The opening post might be a bit clumsy, I did not mean to mix up the colour of the trichomes and curing per se, it should have been 2 different questions.
In the picture of the OG18 I mentioned you can not see the trichomes themselves, but you can see the 'red glow', which can also be the lights when the picture was taken of course.
Stil, if anybody finds a batch of Indica with amber trichomes, and/or a batch that seems to have had a long cure, please let me know
As for the non knowledge, that might be true, I only tried to describe what I like, but you are welcome to correct me with the right technical terminology and knowledge.

It's all good...
Sounds like you want a late harvest Indica. Most likely you won't find any in Amsterdam, doesn't make economic sense to the growers/distributors.
Warning, the following is speculation, please take with a gram or three...
... I think the reason why you or I or anyone would have a difficult time in finding such bud may be that the growers harvest according to a set timetable. The sooner they can get the bud out of the grow area, the sooner another crop and be (trans)planted, and the dry/cure may only last 3-4 weeks before the bud hits the market. The main purpose is to get the bud to market as soon as possible. The longer the delay, the drier the bud becomes, which equates to less weight.
Distributors are not in the business of providing connoisseur/cannoisseur/boutique weed to the masses. Some shops may provide this type of service from time to time because they deal with independent growers and can/could make arrangements. As for commercial growers and distributors, there isn't any money in leaving the bud on the vine for any more time than is absolutely necessary.
...As for the cure, it's all about weight. Distributors aren't going to sit on bud until it's perfectly cured because they would loose BIG MONEY.
If you are going to wait until trichomes turn from clear to amber during the cure, in all likelihood the plant matter will have dried and turned to dust.
A bit of a stretch, but true.

You want bud loaded with amber trichomes? Grow your own is the best advice I can give, besides having friends who grow.

To paraphrase USBL, some should and some really need to read the Grower's Bible.
Happy trails...

[geekymonkey]

I also like my bud on the "ripe" side. (More amber trichomes= more CBDs and a little less THC.) I've had luck at 1e Hulp (Buddha Cheese some batches) and Club Media. Voyagers always has really nicely cured weed, and a lot of the strains that are higher CBD even if not "amber-ed" per se. James used to have really great stuff. Alas.

[Xplore]

All thanks for your answers again. I think my english is not good enough to ask the question in the right way, from what I am reading, I think we do mean the same thing, maybe not, but you put me in the right direction anyway. Uncle Ron's 'speculation' was the reason for the question in the op, I am searching for the incidental exceptions to that spectulation (in the ripened indica, and/or higher-cbd-content-batches way)

Next time when I am in Amsterdam, I will have a look at your suggestions, so thanks again for that.

I didn't read the growers bible, but as I saw it mentioned before, I go search for it (grew up on the M. Frank & E. Rosenthal book, but a Dutch translation)