Does cannabis make you mad?

[Felty]

A very good read
http://www.clear-uk.org/does-cannabis-make-you-mad/

Quite long, and not the easiest piece to follow but discusses the following

1: Cannabis strength has increased massively in recent years
2: The increased strength has lead to more cases of serious mental illness
3: The age people use cannabis has dropped and now it’s common for children to be heavy users
4: The younger users start, the bigger the risk of developing serious mental illness.
5: Lax attitudes to cannabis use have increased the number of users, therefore increasing the rates of the illness.
6: Prohibition is the best way to protect people from the dangers of cannabis use.

[Adamster]

I think its why Cannabis should be Legal for ppl over 25 and not younger!!

You never seen a smoker needing hes nicotine and no having a smoke on him? it the same effect on the brain then Cannabis!! ever seen a drunk (real alcoholic) in rage cause he needs a Drinks now . same thing!! and both are legal and can lead to wrost things like CANCER!! Cannabis Cure CANCER!! so who again causes more problems? lets add a Phrama drug that is given to ppl with either Cannabis or alcohol called paxil and see howmany ppl using this ended up killing each other ――just like Smoking and drinking so..please your propagnada on Ganga else where next time..This is a PRO cannabinoid Page not anti Marijuana !!

[Pipo]

https://www.coffeeshopdirect.com/forum/viewt ... 10&t=23540

so yess it can...............................

[Paco]

https://www.coffeeshopdirect.com/forum/viewt ... 10&t=23540

so yess it can...............................

+ 1

Excellent!
The best example!

[Not_the_monk]

That's actually a really good piece. Should probably be made clear that it addresses those 6 points rather than actually promoting them. For those who might be put off by the length, these are its conclusions

Prohibition claim 1: Cannabis strength has increased massively in recent years

It may have done, but we don’t know for sure because prohibition makes proper monitoring of the trade impossible. If it has increased, the change was brought about by the workings of prohibition. Certainly a market shift did occur and went unnoticed for nearly 10 years because of the lack of proper control. If the fears that high THC levels impact on mental health are true, prohibition has made things worse. Under prohibition, cannabis is not a controlled drug.

Prohibition claim 2: The increased strength has lead to more cases of serious mental illness

There has been no increase in the rates of mental illness. But if increased potency (not strength) has taken place, it might make existing illness worse and be bad for those at risk. The need for a better understanding of the issues of potency and strength is obvious and proper regulation of the trade would address this.

Prohibition claim 3: The age people use cannabis has dropped and now it’s common for children to be heavy users

This is true, but it’s hardly an issue to support the workings of prohibition. That children have become ensnared in the unregulated and uncontrolled cannabis trade is entirely caused by prohibition.

Prohibition claim 4: The younger users start, the bigger the risk of developing serious mental illness

We might as well assume this is true, whether true or not. Children deserve the protection of the law which only a regulated trade could provide, prohibition treats them as criminals and drives all use – including problematic use – underground.

Prohibition claim 5: Lax attitudes to cannabis use have increased the number of users, therefore increasing the rates of the illness

As rates of serious mental illness have not increased in line with the increase in cannabis use, there is no evidence to support this, but the “lax attitudes” have come about through the failure of prohibition. Proper legal control and regulation would mean an end to “lax attitudes” and the introduction of proper, workable laws.

Prohibition claim 6: Prohibition is the best way to protect people from the dangers of cannabis use.

Prohibition means we don’t know what is sold as cannabis, how strong it is or how potent it is. We don’t know if it’s contaminated either after harvest or in the growing process through overuse of pesticides for example. We don’t know who sells it, where from or in what amounts. The only qualification to be a dealer is unaccountability. Cannabis users have no recourse to the law when things go wrong and sometimes violence is used. When this happens it will be those least able to defend themselves – such as ill people – who suffer most.

Prohibition is a con, it is not drug control. The only way to achieve drug control is to control the commercial supply industry, which means proper legalisation, licensing of dealers and premises, age restrictions and strength/potency information.

Treating those you claim to want to help as criminals is, well, simply mad.

[Dark-side-of-moon]

Hi, been lurking here a long (long) time. Thinking about the relationship between cannabis and psychosis.
My thoughts......
Cannabis no more causes psychosis than Cyanide causes poisoning.

Ignore Peter Reynolds on the subject of mental illness. I recieved treatment from the U.K. state for Schizophrenia for 16 years. At infrequent periods in my life I have also been a low-level cannabis user. Noone knows a scientifically measurable cause of serious mental illness. There is a lot of commonality in patients backgrounds and environment, but ultimately peoples lives and experiences are individual. A 'schizophrenic gene' is no more meaningful than a Gay or Straight gene - the 'meaning' is a social construct.

What I really think: In a 'dual world' psychosis is a manifestation of extreme tension in an individual, a battle between Good and Evil if you will. I think of Schizophrenia as a curse handed down from God (sorry, I'm slightly religious). Some people 'work-out' their problem and move on. Some don't.
For me also Marijuana is a spiritual plant. It is potent for me. If used approprately it can send me to the heavens. If used unwisely, to the dark side - where psychosis lives.
I suspect I am no different from anyone else. We ALL know psychosis - it is just a matter of extent.
I think Marijuan will be liberated by honesty.
And now I'm going to wait for the pixies.

[USbongLord]

When I run out or don't have any it makes me mad,but then again that would be my own fault then,,,I haven't been mad in 20 years

[worldcitizen1723]

When I run out or don't have any it makes me mad,but then again that would be my own fault then,,,I haven't been mad in 20 years

Haven't been mad in 40+ years : >

[Felty]

Yeah it's not an anti Mary J thing, its just a long thing I discovered at work.

Just found it quite interesting

[treetop]

Yeah it's not an anti Mary J thing, its just a long thing I discovered at work.

Just found it quite interesting

Nice thread mate. Good article. Actually tries to discuss MJ side effects in an objective fashion. Very rare in the 'journalism' trade these days.

Finally my take on all this is that I used to think MJ might make me mad but as soon as I turn into a helicopter and fly away the feeling passes.

[Dark-side-of-moon]

Does cannabis make you mad?
Does alchohol make you violent?

Paradoxically (in the U.K) Peter Reynolds makes having a spliff seem like a really bad idea whilst Mary Bett (?) makes it seem like a brilliant one.

[Felty]

Having a spliff is a brilliant idea, unless its before work...

I do like this arctical, I didn't know the difference between strength and potency before

[Dark-side-of-moon]

Just don't get busted for Possession.......

[Felty]

Only fools get caught

[Uncle Ron]

There may be something to this...
...seems more so in recent times that stoners, especially in this forum, have become increasingly more easily agitated.
In my humble opinion, a few in this forum are displaying classic cases of various forms of psychosis and should consider stepping away from cannabis, detox if you will. Get back in touch with reality (no matter how badly it sucks), give the brain a rest.
Give an opinion someone disagrees with, one might end up being threatened because of it. This has become more prevalent in recent years... a search of the forum archives will prove as much.
Wait for it...
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