Do all shops in Amsterdam use Mila's bags (ice-o-lator) or do some use Bubblebags? And is there even a difference?
BubbleMan, the guy who makes "Bubble Bags", claims there is a purest form of hash that can be obtained called "Full Melt Clear Dome" or FMCD. He says this stuff kind of "bubbles almost" and makes little bubble domes and the hash fully melts away when you burn it. Well.. atleast thats how I remember what he said (typed). The shots of the FMCD he had were amazing. This stuff looked purely amazing. It looked like the purest stuff.
Any chance of finding something like this around the 'Dam? If so, I bet its probaly pretty expensive.
Id love to get my hands on some if it...
Ice-O-Lator Hashes...
A lot of people, especially ltricity who posts here, or did, and on the channels boards, say that the best is Katsu's Crystal Clear. I think it sounds like what you've just mentioned above.
I've not tried it yet because I wasn't aware of Katsu the first time I visited the Dam, and the second time we just didn't make it there in time. Apparently it's stupidly sticky and you are best putting it in a freezer before trying to smoke it.
This isn't mine, but check it out;
http://192.148.252.25/~reatta/Menus/Kat ... 172006.jpg
it's €10 for 0.5g
I've not tried it yet because I wasn't aware of Katsu the first time I visited the Dam, and the second time we just didn't make it there in time. Apparently it's stupidly sticky and you are best putting it in a freezer before trying to smoke it.
This isn't mine, but check it out;
http://192.148.252.25/~reatta/Menus/Kat ... 172006.jpg
it's €10 for 0.5g
This is ltricity's pic of it, and I'm not exactly sure what I'm looking at, but here;
http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/pho ... 7002kEpUCM
http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/pho ... 7002kEpUCM
From the Channels forum: 2/26/07
"Ice hash is now largely a scam perpetuated on weed tourists.
You'd be sick if you heard some of the stuff that gets mixed in with the ice water by Dutch Ice Hasj makers.... really gross.
This stuff is exclusively for tourists; the Dutch are famously frugal and do not pay 30 euros a g. period.
But enjoy."
" when ice hash is made locally, that it is spit in, pissed in, stale beer is added sometimes, and who knows what else. It is a joke amongst the locals to see how much shit they can get away with. He told me striaght up, don't buy or smoke that shit. Stick with weit or imported hash. Only passing along what I was told by someone I really trust in the biz over there."
And here I was looking forward to having some...
"Ice hash is now largely a scam perpetuated on weed tourists.
You'd be sick if you heard some of the stuff that gets mixed in with the ice water by Dutch Ice Hasj makers.... really gross.
This stuff is exclusively for tourists; the Dutch are famously frugal and do not pay 30 euros a g. period.
But enjoy."
" when ice hash is made locally, that it is spit in, pissed in, stale beer is added sometimes, and who knows what else. It is a joke amongst the locals to see how much shit they can get away with. He told me striaght up, don't buy or smoke that shit. Stick with weit or imported hash. Only passing along what I was told by someone I really trust in the biz over there."
And here I was looking forward to having some...
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philly-Rich
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What ever is in there I like it.So thats the secret Dutch spit 
This stuff is strong.It is also a pain to smoke.Trying to peel the plastic apart is difficult.It is well worth the effort,Whether or not it is worth the price that is up to you.If 30 or 40 euro is too much to spend on hash, than don't.Some of it may be overpriced crap, some is worth it,at least to me.The Crystal Clear from Katsu is definitly worth it.
This stuff is strong.It is also a pain to smoke.Trying to peel the plastic apart is difficult.It is well worth the effort,Whether or not it is worth the price that is up to you.If 30 or 40 euro is too much to spend on hash, than don't.Some of it may be overpriced crap, some is worth it,at least to me.The Crystal Clear from Katsu is definitly worth it.
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Here you go.https://www.coffeeshopdirect.com/ACDfrmAZ.htmlbluenote wrote:I can't seem to find an address for Katsu. Anyone? thanks!
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Ice is nice
[quote="bluenote"]From the Channels forum: 2/26/07
"Ice hash is now largely a scam perpetuated on weed tourists.
You'd be sick if you heard some of the stuff that gets mixed in with the ice water... He told me striaght up, don't buy or smoke that shit. Stick with weit or imported hash."[/quote]
A couple years back people were saying don't smoke the imported black hash because it almost surely has opium due to the huge cheap supply in Afghan.
Other people claim imported hash has old tires, animal shit, and all other kinds of crap in it as binders.
Some people make claims some weed they have bought has been "doctored" with some kind of additives.
I suppose anything is possible if you don't grow and produce your own cannabis products. But, if you are going to go to Amsterdam and smoke something you have to trust someone.
My advice would be to stick with reputable shops. Take a shop like 2e Kamer - look at the wide range of excellent quality products they have and the pride they have in them. They even make their own morrocan style hash for quality control since imported hash is suspect in its binders.
Also, consider this - this business is a lot of work with expensive ingredients. The guy at Anyday told me it takes a kilo of bud to make 50 gs of Master Blaster ice. I just can't see these guys wasting their time to pee in a bucket full of a kilo of top-notch weed. They are not motivated by laughing at the tourists, they are motivated by collecting their money.
As to the Dutch guys not spending their money on ice, that is true - they roll their hash up into cigarettes with weed, or worse yet, tobacco. Then, they smoke the whole thing up all at once.
I think a true Ice connoisseur would never do that - its smoked in a pipe or vaporizer. When you consider the difference in method, is it really so much more expensive?
"Ice hash is now largely a scam perpetuated on weed tourists.
You'd be sick if you heard some of the stuff that gets mixed in with the ice water... He told me striaght up, don't buy or smoke that shit. Stick with weit or imported hash."[/quote]
A couple years back people were saying don't smoke the imported black hash because it almost surely has opium due to the huge cheap supply in Afghan.
Other people claim imported hash has old tires, animal shit, and all other kinds of crap in it as binders.
Some people make claims some weed they have bought has been "doctored" with some kind of additives.
I suppose anything is possible if you don't grow and produce your own cannabis products. But, if you are going to go to Amsterdam and smoke something you have to trust someone.
My advice would be to stick with reputable shops. Take a shop like 2e Kamer - look at the wide range of excellent quality products they have and the pride they have in them. They even make their own morrocan style hash for quality control since imported hash is suspect in its binders.
Also, consider this - this business is a lot of work with expensive ingredients. The guy at Anyday told me it takes a kilo of bud to make 50 gs of Master Blaster ice. I just can't see these guys wasting their time to pee in a bucket full of a kilo of top-notch weed. They are not motivated by laughing at the tourists, they are motivated by collecting their money.
As to the Dutch guys not spending their money on ice, that is true - they roll their hash up into cigarettes with weed, or worse yet, tobacco. Then, they smoke the whole thing up all at once.
I think a true Ice connoisseur would never do that - its smoked in a pipe or vaporizer. When you consider the difference in method, is it really so much more expensive?
I was looking for some top of the line Ice hash, or nederhash. Just wanted to try the best, since i will be with a few friends and we are willing to spend the money. We where looking at spending between 40-50 euros.
Therefore i had thought of the jelly hash from bushdoctors, or the baarneys rubble or maybe the waterworks from dampkring or 2e.
Which one would you personally recommend, any of the 3 mentioned or some other variety?
thanks
Therefore i had thought of the jelly hash from bushdoctors, or the baarneys rubble or maybe the waterworks from dampkring or 2e.
Which one would you personally recommend, any of the 3 mentioned or some other variety?
thanks