The Feds finally take a stand...

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The Feds finally take a stand...

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This is HUGE...
"WASHINGTON (Reuters) - In a move marijuana advocates hailed as an historic shift, the Obama administration on Thursday began giving U.S. states wide leeway to experiment with pot legalization and started by letting Colorado and Washington carry out new laws permitting recreational use.

The Justice Department said it would refocus marijuana enforcement nationwide by bringing criminal charges only in eight defined areas - such as distribution to minors - and giving breathing room to users, growers and related businesses that have feared prosecution."
http://news.yahoo.com/u-not-sue-colorad ... 24195.html

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Yup saw this earlier great news indeed! Been saying this was coming glad I was right..lol
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We will see what the reaction will by on the next republican administration....that said, very very positive news!
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TwoCanucks wrote:We will see what the reaction will by on the next republican administration....that said, very very positive news!
You think there are major differences between the two parties? Wow.....
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redeyezman wrote:
TwoCanucks wrote:We will see what the reaction will by on the next republican administration....that said, very very positive news!
You think there are major differences between the two parties? Wow.....
Yes and no for the most part, and on this topic, yes and no also...seems pretty basic most changes in party running a country results in 180-degree turns in philosophy.

You don't think there differences? Wow back at you.
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There are differences. Guess it depends on who you ask, what those differences are. They have about as much different as any 2 rival gangs... Just fight over who can profit more illegally... :arrow:

You might say the differences are only "skin deep" :lol: The next illegal war will be the cherry on top to continue doing just as dubya did.
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I have always had the impression that the reason why some countries were reluctant to go down the more tolerant avenue was from pressure off of the USA.Will they now adopt this attitude with other countries or will they try and corner the market.
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redeyezman wrote:
TwoCanucks wrote:We will see what the reaction will by on the next republican administration....that said, very very positive news!
You think there are major differences between the two parties? Wow.....
I don't, myself. I generally vote a split ticket, especially at the state level.

Let's see who the GOP runs in 2016. Last time I checked Chris Christie was a Republican. Other possible candidates are Marco Rubio and Bobby Jindal, some others as well.

Let's examine MMJ on a state by state basis, by their governor's political party (I don't have a horse in this race, this merely piqued my curiosity):

Alaska - GOP
Arizona - GOP
Colorado - DEM (but some accuse Hickenlooper of being a DINO, due to fiscally conservative policies)
Connecticut - DEM
DC - DEM (if Marion Berry was still in charge crack would be decriminalized ;-)
Delaware - DEM
Hawaii - DEM
Illinois - DEM
Maine - GOP
Mass. - GOP
Michigan - GOP
Montana - DEM
Nevada - GOP
New Hampshire - DEM
New Jersey - GOP
New Mexico - GOP
Oregon - DEM
Rhode Island - DEM
Vermont - DEM
Washington - DEM

That's 8 Republican governors out of 20 MMJ (or legalized) states.

If Chris Christie runs, we already know where he stands.
Bobby Jindal, I'm having difficulty discovering his position (defined as 5 minutes with Google)
Marco Rubio - appears to be against.
Rick Perry - you know he's against it. Here is a really good example of what's wrong with the GOP: Bible driven politics, although Texas apparently has it going on for business.

But the first three,none of them are Bible thumpers, thankfully.

So we'll see. It's up to the Prez to set the direction for the Justice Department.
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Yesterday the British House of Commons voted down their military action in Syria. What Cameron said gave me hope, hope that a US President some days has enough balls and common sense to do the same:

David Cameron quote:
David Cameron replied: "I can give that assurance. Let me say the House has not voted for either motion tonight. I strongly believe in the need for a tough response to the use of chemical weapons but I also believe in respecting the will of this House of Commons."

He added: "It is clear to me that the British Parliament, reflecting the views of the British people, does not want to see British military action. I get that and the government will act accordingly."
It's not my intention to bring Syria into this, but to demonstrate the concept of States' Rights in the U.S., and to applaud Mr. Cameron for respecting the will of the people in his country. Now, if we could get this attitude in the White House at some point.....
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Lafe you didn't mention Rand Paul of Kentucky. He is pushing for legalized industrial hemp in his state of Kentucky. He is also a possible to run in 2016 for president. Mainstream media already begun their blackout efforts against him so not sure how much gets out about him to he masses...

That makes 9 GOP... Almost half. On one simple subject... Not the most scientific but I know I have about 10,000+ more references I could sight but I won't..... Cuz fuck it...
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redeyezman wrote:Lafe you didn't mention Rand Paul of Kentucky. He is pushing for legalized industrial hemp in his state of Kentucky. He is also a possible to run in 2016 for president. Mainstream media already begun their blackout efforts against him so not sure how much gets out about him to he masses...

That makes 9 GOP... Almost half. On one simple subject... Not the most scientific but I know I have about 10,000+ more references I could sight but I won't..... Cuz fuck it...
Sure, Rand Paul. The reason I didn't include him is because he's not electable (yet) IMO for a variety of reasons. I hope he stays in the race long enough, if he runs, to continue to shine some light on various issues that may not be examined during a Presidential campaign.
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Seems you deleted the part where you said you don't have a horse in this race.... Unelectable? Oh.... Okay... Id ask for a few "for instance" but 2016 is long way away so meh...
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Hopefully the 2016 Presidential Primaries won't become the circus that was the 2012 Presidential Primaries... I'm speaking to you Republican Party.
If the conservatives (not always a bad thing) get their shit together and give the ole mighty heave ho to the right-wing radicals/dinosaurs once and for all, they might survive, but then again they are their own worst enemy. Hehe, and neocons blame everyone else for their self inflicted ignorance... :roll:
I would suggest the same for the Democrats, however the left-wing radicals typically are a bunch of tree hugging, granola eating, drum circle pretards (pretentious fucktards).
It's no wonder the right wing wins the majority of battles it faces, regardless of the individual desires, they stand together. Given historical fact, seems to have worked, however due to isolating (marginalizing) most of the minorities(?), especially during the last two Presidential Elections, I think the Republican Party will forever be known as the party of racists and bigots. I'm not sure if they will win another Presidential Election as long as people remember how they've treated the "MAJORITY" of Americans.
I don't write these words with ease because I once considered myself a Republican (due to some of my conservative views)... I also was once a Democrat as well for the same reasons, however I found that party to be just as corrupt as the other... Now I find myself caught in the middle with most of my fellow Americans (Sheeple), being jostled, pulled, and pushed at the whim of both political parties (aka special interest groups with large sums of cash).
What to do? Get high of course... :roll: ;)
How to appease the ragging monster within? Cannabis of course...
Time for me to bring the Oily Farm to America.... :D :D :D
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redeyezman wrote:Seems you deleted the part where you said you don't have a horse in this race.... Unelectable? Oh.... Okay... Id ask for a few "for instance" but 2016 is long way away so meh...
Unelectable yet (IMO :-) because of his Libertarian stance. I feel most Americans don't know exactly what to think of him, although I will probably vote for him.

The situation is much like the situation with his father, who I also voted for.
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Lafe wrote:
redeyezman wrote:
TwoCanucks wrote:We will see what the reaction will by on the next republican administration....that said, very very positive news!
You think there are major differences between the two parties? Wow.....
I don't, myself. I generally vote a split ticket, especially at the state level.

Let's see who the GOP runs in 2016. Last time I checked Chris Christie was a Republican. Other possible candidates are Marco Rubio and Bobby Jindal, some others as well.

Let's examine MMJ on a state by state basis, by their governor's political party (I don't have a horse in this race, this merely piqued my curiosity):

Alaska - GOP
Arizona - GOP
Colorado - DEM (but some accuse Hickenlooper of being a DINO, due to fiscally conservative policies)
Connecticut - DEM
DC - DEM (if Marion Berry was still in charge crack would be decriminalized ;-)
Delaware - DEM
Hawaii - DEM
Illinois - DEM
Maine - GOP
Mass. - GOP
Michigan - GOP
Montana - DEM
Nevada - GOP
New Hampshire - DEM
New Jersey - GOP
New Mexico - GOP
Oregon - DEM
Rhode Island - DEM
Vermont - DEM
Washington - DEM

That's 8 Republican governors out of 20 MMJ (or legalized) states.

If Chris Christie runs, we already know where he stands.
Bobby Jindal, I'm having difficulty discovering his position (defined as 5 minutes with Google)
Marco Rubio - appears to be against.
Rick Perry - you know he's against it. Here is a really good example of what's wrong with the GOP: Bible driven politics, although Texas apparently has it going on for business.

But the first three,none of them are Bible thumpers, thankfully.

So we'll see. It's up to the Prez to set the direction for the Justice Department.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people
Yesterday the British House of Commons voted down their military action in Syria. What Cameron said gave me hope, hope that a US President some days has enough balls and common sense to do the same:

David Cameron quote:
David Cameron replied: "I can give that assurance. Let me say the House has not voted for either motion tonight. I strongly believe in the need for a tough response to the use of chemical weapons but I also believe in respecting the will of this House of Commons."

He added: "It is clear to me that the British Parliament, reflecting the views of the British people, does not want to see British military action. I get that and the government will act accordingly."
It's not my intention to bring Syria into this, but to demonstrate the concept of States' Rights in the U.S., and to applaud Mr. Cameron for respecting the will of the people in his country. Now, if we could get this attitude in the White House at some point.....

Cameron had no choice but to accept that he had been defeated,he lost the vote,he could'nt even get all of his own party to support him fully,the UK public after Blair and the dodgey dossier have no real interest in using their military,they no longer trust limited intelligence reports.

All the opinion polls taken in the UK were massively against military intervention.

The government in the UK is different to what you guys have over in the states,a bit like comparing apples with bananas.Don't forget Cameron has been leading the effort to use military force and is now discredited.
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It was a very close vote here in the UK
285 against and 272 for
Conservatives don't have a majority (in a coalition) so for it to be so close other MPs from other parties would also have had to vote for action.

I'm really happy that America seems to have realised the "drug war" is a battle that could never be won and are coming round to recreational legalisation. Hopefully we will do the same soon now the pressure from the US will be lessened.
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