Marijuana Strains Like OG Kush Are Meaningless
Re: Marijuana Strains Like OG Kush Are Meaningless
I've been saying this for years now. Weed is weed, either its strong or its not. I'm sure the nay sayers will be out in force over this but science is science.
Re: Marijuana Strains Like OG Kush Are Meaningless
Great read, thanks 
I dont agree that "weed is weed" but I also dont buy into names which a lot of my mates do. When buying I just trust my eyes and nose. I wish I knew more but the amount of conflicting information makesit hard. I also dont want the stick for getting something wrong on here...
I dont agree that "weed is weed" but I also dont buy into names which a lot of my mates do. When buying I just trust my eyes and nose. I wish I knew more but the amount of conflicting information makesit hard. I also dont want the stick for getting something wrong on here...
One convenient location... in Africa.
Re: Marijuana Strains Like OG Kush Are Meaningless
and flavor of smoke when purchased, saying no difference between sat and ind is wrong i know i feel a difference, also using og kush as an example when its a mostly sativa hybrid is bad also, surely using 100% sat vs 100% indica would be betterseanlyall wrote:Great read, thanks
When buying I just trust my eyes and nose.
the great pot debate continues
Re: Marijuana Strains Like OG Kush Are Meaningless
But a foremost cannabis expert, Jeffrey Raber, who holds a Ph.D. in chemistry from USC, says it's all b.s. Those names don't mean anything,billyriz wrote:saying no difference between sat and ind is wrongseanlyall wrote:Great read, thanks
When buying I just trust my eyes and nose.
you need to decide whom to trust, a scientist with a fact based report, or a bunch of stoners who desperately want it to be true. It's a bit like religion in that sense. fact vs faith.
It's all in your head.
Re: Marijuana Strains Like OG Kush Are Meaningless
Interesting article, I know I think I notice a difference in the effects of different strains I smoke, but I don't know for sure that isn't a placebo. Would like to see more research into it, to see if a consensus amongst scientists can emerge.
Re: Marijuana Strains Like OG Kush Are Meaningless
Jeffrey Raber Ph. D. might want to talk to a whole bunch of Ph. D.'s at Princeton... http://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/ ... aceae.html
I could go on listing Universities and Colleges that might have something to add to the conversation as well.
Some brain food for the masses - when does someone with a Ph. D. in Chemistry become a foremost expert in cannabis?
Chemistry isn't Botany or Horticulture, so the geek might want to confer with the "real" foremost experts in cannabis - the ones that actually study the plant, not some Ph. D. with a chemistry set who most likely has a financial motive. All's one has to do is check back later... won't have to wait too long, spring is four months away.
As for the rest of his drivel, Indicas relax me and some even seem to make me drowsy, Sativa's just the opposite. Next failed hypothesis...
This dude is a douche with an advanced degree...
Next...
...
Note: I lightly added a probable motive - $$$, which is quite possible. However, the lab rat does seem to try and validate himself with pointing out the inconsistency with misidentified strains. Last thoughts - various pheno's within a strain can produce many variables of aromas and effects.
Sounds like a lead-in to heavily regulate the emerging industry with suggestions of tests to determine various aspects of the weed. So, who pays to test every batch? The producer does, and the cost is past on to the customer. The more requirements placed on individual or small co-op grows will force them out of business, as would Mom and Pop shops, due to the passing of the buck. Larger corporations will swoop in... welcome to Weed-Mart, subsidiary of Wal-Mart.
Be mindful of what you want, you just might get more, which in this case isn't a good thing.
Protect the consumer, absolutely. Doesn't have to hurt the little people.... but it will....
I could go on listing Universities and Colleges that might have something to add to the conversation as well.
Some brain food for the masses - when does someone with a Ph. D. in Chemistry become a foremost expert in cannabis?
Chemistry isn't Botany or Horticulture, so the geek might want to confer with the "real" foremost experts in cannabis - the ones that actually study the plant, not some Ph. D. with a chemistry set who most likely has a financial motive. All's one has to do is check back later... won't have to wait too long, spring is four months away.
As for the rest of his drivel, Indicas relax me and some even seem to make me drowsy, Sativa's just the opposite. Next failed hypothesis...
This dude is a douche with an advanced degree...
Next...
...
Note: I lightly added a probable motive - $$$, which is quite possible. However, the lab rat does seem to try and validate himself with pointing out the inconsistency with misidentified strains. Last thoughts - various pheno's within a strain can produce many variables of aromas and effects.
Sounds like a lead-in to heavily regulate the emerging industry with suggestions of tests to determine various aspects of the weed. So, who pays to test every batch? The producer does, and the cost is past on to the customer. The more requirements placed on individual or small co-op grows will force them out of business, as would Mom and Pop shops, due to the passing of the buck. Larger corporations will swoop in... welcome to Weed-Mart, subsidiary of Wal-Mart.
Be mindful of what you want, you just might get more, which in this case isn't a good thing.
Protect the consumer, absolutely. Doesn't have to hurt the little people.... but it will....
-
worldcitizen1723
- Posts: 1122
- Joined: Mon 1st Mar 2010 12:10 am
Re: Marijuana Strains Like OG Kush Are Meaningless
the article is bs
there is most certainly a difference between saliva and indica plants and not just in the looks.
also he is right about names ffs OG meant Ocean Grown originally…. so yeah calling strains OG is just so wrong….
there is most certainly a difference between saliva and indica plants and not just in the looks.
also he is right about names ffs OG meant Ocean Grown originally…. so yeah calling strains OG is just so wrong….
- treetop
- Posts: 3174
- Joined: Mon 18th May 2009 12:48 am
- Location: with the sun occasionally on my back
Re: Marijuana Strains Like OG Kush Are Meaningless
correctamundoUncle Ron wrote:....
This dude is a douche with an advanced degree...
Next...
...![]()
How much did you produce?
-
Roo-Vee-Bo
- Posts: 186
- Joined: Mon 14th Jan 2013 03:11 pm
Re: Marijuana Strains Like OG Kush Are Meaningless
This exactly!Uncle Ron wrote:Jeffrey Raber Ph. D. might want to talk to a whole bunch of Ph. D.'s at Princeton... http://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/ ... aceae.html
I could go on listing Universities and Colleges that might have something to add to the conversation as well.
Some brain food for the masses - when does someone with a Ph. D. in Chemistry become a foremost expert in cannabis?
Chemistry isn't Botany or Horticulture, so the geek might want to confer with the "real" foremost experts in cannabis - the ones that actually study the plant, not some Ph. D. with a chemistry set who most likely has a financial motive. All's one has to do is check back later... won't have to wait too long, spring is four months away.
As for the rest of his drivel, Indicas relax me and some even seem to make me drowsy, Sativa's just the opposite. Next failed hypothesis...
This dude is a douche with an advanced degree...
Next...
...![]()
Note: I lightly added a probable motive - $$$, which is quite possible. However, the lab rat does seem to try and validate himself with pointing out the inconsistency with misidentified strains. Last thoughts - various pheno's within a strain can produce many variables of aromas and effects.
Sounds like a lead-in to heavily regulate the emerging industry with suggestions of tests to determine various aspects of the weed. So, who pays to test every batch? The producer does, and the cost is past on to the customer. The more requirements placed on individual or small co-op grows will force them out of business, as would Mom and Pop shops, due to the passing of the buck. Larger corporations will swoop in... welcome to Weed-Mart, subsidiary of Wal-Mart.
Be mindful of what you want, you just might get more, which in this case isn't a good thing.
Protect the consumer, absolutely. Doesn't have to hurt the little people.... but it will....
Ridiculous article with a heavily motivated conclusion. If you go to , say, Attitude Seeds online they will probably have 30+ breeders offering "OG Kush". They will most likely all be different. It doesn't mean all the breeders or companies are lying. A little research into how various strains have come into existence will tell any uneducated stoner that a single strain can yield a variety of pheno's as USBL suggest above.
Believe what you bloody experience. The idea that there is no difference between Sativa and Indica is ludicrous .
-
Puff That Grass!
- Posts: 8
- Joined: Thu 19th Dec 2013 12:06 pm
Re: Marijuana Strains Like OG Kush Are Meaningless
This let me a bit puzzled...but there is some kind of truth in it.And we had to clarify few things...first,sativa is how scientist name hemp strains while indica is every kind of psychoactive cannabis...so according to this definition there is no differences other than morphological,terpenes and potency with colombian,african,thai and afghani,leb or morrocan weed.
Now it's true that there is so much money to be made with this business,that some shop may sell any kind of products with a fancy name to it just to make quick cash...and that is true for seedmakers too,sadly.
Also,due to the backdoor policy we have no idea of what happens really behind the scene...i mean,do people grow from proven clone?Certainly not,apart for a few reputable strains that are always on the coffeshop menus.And what happens when they lose the clone?The same thing as in the seeds business"let's grab another plant and sold it under the same name"...for most, honesty is a thing of the past...
A last thing,what we stoners call indica and sativa doesn't have a clearly defined set of effect,it's pure stereotype to say indica are dull ,boring ,couchlock while sativas are speedy,trippy.Believe me,i've grown/smoked my fair bit of weed to have my hand on couchlocking sativa and energetic,trippy indica.And there i'm talking mostly about landraces plants,where things are less mixed up than in modern hybrids.
Now it's true that there is so much money to be made with this business,that some shop may sell any kind of products with a fancy name to it just to make quick cash...and that is true for seedmakers too,sadly.
Also,due to the backdoor policy we have no idea of what happens really behind the scene...i mean,do people grow from proven clone?Certainly not,apart for a few reputable strains that are always on the coffeshop menus.And what happens when they lose the clone?The same thing as in the seeds business"let's grab another plant and sold it under the same name"...for most, honesty is a thing of the past...
A last thing,what we stoners call indica and sativa doesn't have a clearly defined set of effect,it's pure stereotype to say indica are dull ,boring ,couchlock while sativas are speedy,trippy.Believe me,i've grown/smoked my fair bit of weed to have my hand on couchlocking sativa and energetic,trippy indica.And there i'm talking mostly about landraces plants,where things are less mixed up than in modern hybrids.
- USbongLord
- Posts: 6704
- Joined: Tue 19th Sep 2006 07:47 pm
- Location: Baltimore,Amsterdam
Re: Marijuana Strains Like OG Kush Are Meaningless
I like Kali mist,,it's a sativa 
rockin into the night
- The One Who White'd
- Posts: 41
- Joined: Mon 2nd Dec 2013 05:17 pm
Re: Marijuana Strains Like OG Kush Are Meaningless
All the weed strains have been cross dreeded to much now !
Weed has changed .
Now we are all smoking fuck'in mutant weed that smells strange and tastes strange!
Are you sure that's marijuana your smoking ?
I notice you can't find nice sticky weed that has that sharp potent skunkish coffee smell in Amsterdam anymore !
Real Skunk is gone.
Or ,does any body know where I can get it in Amsterdam
Weed has changed .
Now we are all smoking fuck'in mutant weed that smells strange and tastes strange!
Are you sure that's marijuana your smoking ?
I notice you can't find nice sticky weed that has that sharp potent skunkish coffee smell in Amsterdam anymore !
Real Skunk is gone.
Or ,does any body know where I can get it in Amsterdam
-
worldcitizen1723
- Posts: 1122
- Joined: Mon 1st Mar 2010 12:10 am
- treetop
- Posts: 3174
- Joined: Mon 18th May 2009 12:48 am
- Location: with the sun occasionally on my back
Re: Marijuana Strains Like OG Kush Are Meaningless
at some point I'd I expect most strains will get their cannaboids mapped as Cannabis has amazing healing properties. Big Pharma money probably could do some pretty wild things with the genome and perhaps even be able to tailor the cannaboidical profile according to their needs.
Cannabis could well be the cure the cancer. A panacea for everyone to have for free. No wonder the 'authorities' have banned it.
Cannabis could well be the cure the cancer. A panacea for everyone to have for free. No wonder the 'authorities' have banned it.
How much did you produce?