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So the way I read that article the local elected representatives want the regulations relaxed but the state appointed non elected mayor is doing the opposite. Nice to see democracy in action.

I am very upset about this.

I have been planning a month long trip to the Netherlands for 14 years.

Does anyone think Amsterdam will start enforcing it, now that the courts have said a ban isn't unconstitutional?

r420 wrote:I am very upset about this.

I have been planning a month long trip to the Netherlands for 14 years.

Does anyone think Amsterdam will start enforcing it, now that the courts have said a ban isn't unconstitutional?

In most other parts of the country, including Amsterdam, the mayors have said they will not enforce the residency rule.

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johnn wrote:

r420 wrote:I am very upset about this.

I have been planning a month long trip to the Netherlands for 14 years.

Does anyone think Amsterdam will start enforcing it, now that the courts have said a ban isn't unconstitutional?

In most other parts of the country, including Amsterdam, the mayors have said they will not enforce the residency rule.

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but they can and given the right set of circumstances will enforce it. All without being elected.

without the young people coming to amsterdam every weekend,the city would suffer{resaunts,musesums,ect},and the street dealing would go mad again.In bredra if you go by the coffee shops the street dealer,will pick you up and offer you weed and coke ect.i been coming to holland since 88,and it was the biggest drugs market in the world{100s of dealers sitting on the monument in dam sqaure} during the rave/dance music years,i am gald it changed.it was pure harassment for non dutch in those days.Please dont turn the clock back,or the dealer will come back

I'd like a few more board members to weigh in on this.

I guess it's not much to worry about because people aren't as upset as I am.

I hope I am okay for my upcoming September trip.

Then, I've also thought they do this intentionally to keep people coming.

r420 wrote:I'd like a few more board members to weigh in on this.

I guess it's not much to worry about because people aren't as upset as I am.

I hope I am okay for my upcoming September trip.

Then, I've also thought they do this intentionally to keep people coming.

No worries, so long as you are not visiting towns near the boarders. And yes, it seems every year at the start of the tourist season there's some such story..

r420 wrote:I am very upset about this.

I have been planning a month long trip to the Netherlands for 14 years.

Only a dedicated stoner would 'plan' a month jaunt for FOURTEEN YEARS...

As I can only imagine you must be digging your very own tunnel; I'll just say - do open the finished tunnel to the public as 1/ a testament to Human endeavour and 2/ to shame the GVB and the eternity the construction of the Noord/Zuid line has taken. You may well end up a Dutch hero...

treetop wrote:So the way I read that article the local elected representatives want the regulations relaxed but the state appointed non elected mayor is doing the opposite. Nice to see democracy in action.

Must be weird coming from a country with only two political parties (with very little ideological difference) and some entirely uncontested elections.

Eleven parties hold seats in the Dutch States General.

2012 Dutch election - 74.6% turnout
2012 US election - 57.5% turnout (the highest for 44 years).

With those small facts, I can see why any American would question the democratic integrity of Holland. I'll bet those Dutch don't even spy en masse on their own citizens' phones and e-mail. Terrible...

r420 wrote:I'd like a few more board members to weigh in on this.

I guess it's not much to worry about because people aren't as upset as I am.

I hope I am okay for my upcoming September trip.

Then, I've also thought they do this intentionally to keep people coming.

People aren't vocally upset (any more) because this doesn't change anything, tourists are and have been banned from coffeeshops in some areas of Holland already, this just confirms again the status quo. The mayor of Amsterdam has repeatedly said they have no intention of banning tourists from coffeeshops there.

If you've been planning a trip that long you must have been aware of all the "wietpas" stuff over the last few years surely? There have been loads of legal challenges to this direction and each time they have failed. There are large threads with plenty of the required upset in them on here about it if you search.

I wasn't aware that anyone was really holding out much hope in the legal route any more, luckily the situation seems to have stablised with some border areas enforcing and places like Amsterdam not. As long as it is left up to local areas I can't see universal enforcement soon. If anything the 250m thing with schools is more worrying, bad enough as it is but if anyone got that distance extended much.... it's already completely arbitrary so why not?.... there'd hardly be a shop left.

Yes, I've seen many articles about the wietpas.

I just thought that now that the court's can legally enforce, they'd all jump on board with that ruling.

Guess my point is that they've always been able to enforce it, this wasn't the first ruling and the aim of the failed action was to challenge the existing situation. I really don't think anything has changed.

gronin wrote:

treetop wrote:So the way I read that article the local elected representatives want the regulations relaxed but the state appointed non elected mayor is doing the opposite. Nice to see democracy in action.

Must be weird coming from a country with only two political parties (with very little ideological difference) and some entirely uncontested elections.

Eleven parties hold seats in the Dutch States General.

2012 Dutch election - 74.6% turnout
2012 US election - 57.5% turnout (the highest for 44 years).

With those small facts, I can see why any American would question the democratic integrity of Holland. I'll bet those Dutch don't even spy en masse on their own citizens' phones and e-mail. Terrible...

Wrong country.

All that wasted research.

Not that my actual country or many others have real democracy anyway. Just the illusion of such.

As a sidebar to this aren't the first round of the ' won't someone think of the children' closures be coming up Soon? Besides that nothing to worry about

Gronin,

It took me this long to get the money together. And my dad died and had some life stuff happen.

But this year, it's on.

63 days.

I'm going to live in the Netherlands, how do I get one of these Wietpasses?