Dutch St. Nick Met by Anti-Blackface Protest; 90 Arrested

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Re: Dutch St. Nick Met by Anti-Blackface Protest; 90 Arreste

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Ahhhhh… and folks, some jabronie stepped up to the plate.

KeyMonCha - what fucking planet are you from?

wait.

don't answer that.

it doesn't matter where you're from.

with idiotic comments like that, you are a jabronie pal.

actually a racsist.

first. your definition and even worse your interpretation of racsim leaves a lot to be desired…. Learn to read;
Racism consists of both prejudice and discrimination based in social perceptions of biological differences between peoples. It often takes the form of social actions, practices or beliefs, or political systems that consider different races to be ranked as inherently superior or inferior to each other, based on presumed shared inheritable traits, abilities, or qualities. It may also hold that members of different races should be treated differently.

Some definitions of racism also include discriminatory behaviors and beliefs based on cultural, national, ethnic, caste, or religious stereotypes
I put it in bold for you because I see you're lacking in reading comprehension.

do your best to convince yourself thats not happening.

But even better… we can do an experiment… you know… to see if you're really right, or not.

How bout this...

paint your face black.

go to the hood in any big city in the states

and see if you survive.

I'll put my money where my mouth is.

Money says you don't survive.

you wanna take me up on this?


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Re: Dutch St. Nick Met by Anti-Blackface Protest; 90 Arreste

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Re-read my post, brah... Then read yours... One of them contains a bit of hate.... Here's a clue----> It ain't mine!

Over-sensitivity, especially towards those with no malice, breeds hate and conflict... My post was intended to find "common ground"... Yours, only antagonistic finger-pointing, and as i said previously, an accusation of Racism which i definitely don't deserve... I have nothing personal against you dconstrukt, but you know nothing about me.... Especially, where my opinions regarding race are concerned.

Ignorance, brah... It's not as bad as racism, but it's right up there! :roll:
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its racist.

no matter what you say or do to justify it.

no spin changes the fact its racist.

definition says it in black and white.

and MORALLY you know its wrong too.

But hey… If you believe you're right… take me up on my challenge.

paint your face black.

go to the inner city and see if you survive.

if what you're doing/saying isn't racist, surely you wouldn't have any issues… :)
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Re: Dutch St. Nick Met by Anti-Blackface Protest; 90 Arreste

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You're nit-picking... If you go to Scotland in a ginger wig you're likely to get slaughtered... It doesn't make it racist! ...Just ignorant, and stupid.

...I also never said i agreed with the Zwarte Pete tradition... All i said is that you can't definitely say that those who support it are racist....

...If you are racist, you MUST feel that either your race has a superior edge, that another race is inferior, or generally just dislike those of a different race for no reason... That is racism.

I don't see all the supporters of the festival feeling that way... You can't call THEM all racist!
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dude. first off.. your definition of racist is entirely fictional…. no clue how the fuck you created that definition… but hey if that helps you justify your position.

paining your face black… to imitate being a black person… for a holiday or tradition…

thats racist.

period.

twist it however you want with your made up definition of what is racist.

call it whatever you will.

nit picking, blah blah blah blah…. whatever nonsense...

its STILL racist.

if you support this or think its morally right, you too are a fucking racist.

Period. there is no discussion… how about this: learn to comprehend what you're reading without twisting it into something else thats fictional.

if you think you're right, or I'm wrong…. take me up on the challenge.

paint your face black and go to the inner city.

I'll put my money where my mouth is.

$1k says you don't survive.

but of course... you can sit there and tell every black person who's looking to kill you, how what you're doing isn't racist…

see if they buy it.

reading a definition online or from a book and comprehending what you're reading, as evident by your made up definition of racsim… are two totally different things… :-)
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Re: Dutch St. Nick Met by Anti-Blackface Protest; 90 Arreste

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Why the fuck do you insist on going around in circles and avoiding any decent discussion? ...You're acting like you're making great arguments, yet you're actually spouting pure garbage.

Firstly, "my" definition of racism is pretty much the definition layed out in the dictionary, i.e.:

racism
ˈreɪsɪz(ə)m/
noun
noun: racism

the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
"theories of racism"
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior


That's the official definition, and it's also the definition i gave... End of!

Secondly, and for the last time because really it's you that can't fucking read, I, IN NO WAY, SUPPORT THE ZWARTE PETE TRADITION!!!!! ...So stop ignoring that part of my argument... All i said was that i don't believe most of the supporters are racists.

And Lastly, your insistence that painting my face black and going into the inner city is any indication of what is racist or not.... As i said before, you wouldn't walk around in Glasgow with a ginger wig... It would be stupid and ignorant, but not racist.... Also, why do you think people in the inner city have any more right than anyone else to decide what is, and what isn't racist? ...Who put them in charge of the Morality Brigade anyway? ...Answer, No-One!! ...I have just as much right as them to decide if something is racist or not... Just because they would kill me if i "blacked up", doesn't prove anything.... They'd probably kill me if i said the U.S. was a shit hole, or the French won the war of Independence, or Jesus was a fag.... All it proves is that it's a violent place.

Seriously though, dude.... Who the fuck do you think you are to be coming on this forum (a forum about coffeeshops in Amsterdam) pointing fingers and accusing people you don't know of being racists? ....You're type only perpetuates these conflicts, but you seem incapable of seeing that... People like you CAUSE racism, yet are blind to that fact... Stop singling people out and asking for special treatment for certain groups.... Like Mr Yossarian22, who actually says it's ok for black people to white up, but not vice-verse.... For fucks sake, that's the very definition of racism right there, but you let that one slip! WTF???!?!?!

Some of us don't believe that colour matters... Others, like you, want to use it as a weapon, or a virtuous tool to accompany you on your great and righteous quest to vanquish imaginary racism from forums about weed! :roll:

I am in no way a racist... I just follow the "live and let live" philosophy until someone gets hurt... You're the one causing divide and anger in this thread buddy; not me.... You want intolerance? ...Go look in a fucking mirror!

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Re: Dutch St. Nick Met by Anti-Blackface Protest; 90 Arreste

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ok...what's next ?protest sinterclaas himself as he's ALWAYS white and may offend a muslim with a christian event....its part o dutch culture ffs....maybe all the whining bitches should go to some arab or african country and tell them to stop their traditions....its pathetic this PC world we live in....stop being so fucking anal retentive and get some lives.....leave sinterclaas alone and swarte piets too as the kids love em.....annual rant over
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