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Anyone ever tried the honey bee extractor was going to buy one of these as theyre cheap enough was goin to do my first extraction after christmas, was also wondering how much butine would you use for about an oz of trim? any help appreciated :D


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Would be shocked if someone doesnt come on and shoot you down here buddy.
Would like to know users experiences with this too though and also if there is a alternative to butaine? Last lot I saw kicking around smelt like it would explode as soon as a flame went near it.
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I've never tried it myself, but I'd be worried: for one thing, they claim that the plastic is nonreactive but I'm not sure; I would insist upon stainless steel or glass material myself. Also, be VERY VERY VERY careful if you do it. For one thing, in the Netherlands(and a lot of other countries, including Canada) BHO is considered a hard drug with stiff penalties if you're caught. For another, butane is extremely explosive. If you need to do it, do it outside away from any flames or electronics. NEVER do it indoors. If you do it under a tent, make sure the top of the tent has an opening that allows gas to escape(otherwise, it can concentrate there and a single spark will turn the entire tent into the Hindenburg) and make sure to blow a fan towards where you're doing the extraction(the air should be blowing towards the set-up, not sucking the air from it- if butane passes through a fan, it could cause an explosion) Also, be sure to get high-quality butane and be sure to test it before hand- spray it onto a Pyrex dish(again, outside), allow it to evaporate and see if you can find any residue or chemical smell- if you can, it's no good and will contaminate your oil. Personally, I don't think it's worth it: you can make perfectly good hash oil from isopropyl alcohol or 95% grain alcohol and it's a lot safer. Or use the trim for edibles or Green Dragon.

Edit: actually, using a steel contraption for this would be dangerous because of the possibility of a spark.
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Yossarian22 wrote:I've never tried it myself, but I'd be worried: for one thing, they claim that the plastic is nonreactive but I'm not sure; I would insist upon stainless steel or glass material myself. Also, be VERY VERY VERY careful if you do it. For one thing, in the Netherlands(and a lot of other countries, including Canada) BHO is considered a hard drug with stiff penalties if you're caught. For another, butane is extremely explosive. If you need to do it, do it outside away from any flames or electronics. NEVER do it indoors. If you do it under a tent, make sure the top of the tent has an opening that allows gas to escape(otherwise, it can concentrate there and a single spark will turn the entire tent into the Hindenburg) and make sure to blow a fan towards where you're doing the extraction(the air should be blowing towards the set-up, not sucking the air from it- if butane passes through a fan, it could cause an explosion) Also, be sure to get high-quality butane and be sure to test it before hand- spray it onto a Pyrex dish(again, outside), allow it to evaporate and see if you can find any residue or chemical smell- if you can, it's no good and will contaminate your oil. Personally, I don't think it's worth it: you can make perfectly good hash oil from isopropyl alcohol or 95% grain alcohol and it's a lot safer. Or use the trim for edibles or Green Dragon.

Edit: actually, using a steel contraption for this would be dangerous because of the possibility of a spark.
Cheers mate was just reading about alcohol extraction that will be using that method instead
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i wouldn't fuck with butane…. forget the explosion possibility…. if you don't burn it all off, you could be injesting some of it when you smoke.

CO2 is the best way by far.
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nathan420stoner wrote:Anyone ever tried the honey bee extractor was going to buy one of these as theyre cheap enough was goin to do my first extraction after christmas, was also wondering how much butine would you use for about an oz of trim? any help appreciated :D
Depending on how much material is packed into the Honey Bee, one can of butane should suffice, two cans might just be a little too much.
Something I do when using the Honey Bee is blast once, empty the contents and allow the plant material to thaw. Typically I'll process more than one tube's worth of plant material, so I'll combine all processed materials and wait until thawed, then process the material a second time.

Happy Blasting.
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Uncle Ron wrote:
nathan420stoner wrote:Anyone ever tried the honey bee extractor was going to buy one of these as theyre cheap enough was goin to do my first extraction after christmas, was also wondering how much butine would you use for about an oz of trim? any help appreciated :D
Depending on how much material is packed into the Honey Bee, one can of butane should suffice, two cans might just be a little too much.
Something I do when using the Honey Bee is blast once, empty the contents and allow the plant material to thaw. Typically I'll process more than one tube's worth of plant material, so I'll combine all processed materials and wait until thawed, then process the material a second time.

Happy Blasting.
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Cheers Ron some of the concentrates you be posting look mouth-watering man :D Gona use alcohol the first try hopefully will be decent will post a picture when i do it but wont be to the new year :)
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we're doing everclear… with the magic butter machine.

then cooking it off to get the oil.

and then using it for ecigs…
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Read read learn...please..good luckl
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dconstrukt wrote:we're doing everclear… with the magic butter machine.

then cooking it off to get the oil.

and then using it for ecigs…

+1 the Magical Butter Machine is magical as it does butter, tincture, and oil! This is a good path to take!

USbongLord wrote:Read read learn...please..good luckl
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Ditch the honey bee, plastic crap that does fall to bits after heavy use, cheap option would be build your own stainless set up, cost half the price of that plastic turd.

Go on flea bay, get a 1inch stainless tube around 30cm in length medical or food grade only, a rubber bung like science lessons at school, medical/food grade stainless mesh and last but not least a jubilee clip to hold the mesh to the bottom of tube, put it all together, drill bung so it takes a butane can. It will hold 22g, do not compact the trim down too much and it will be 2 cans and 3 for buds. You want zero impurity butane, pretty important. Also use an oven glove to hold the tube as it will freeze your hands off.

Hey presto, u know have the majority of an okeif tube at a tenth of the price including import cost. (I made mistake of buying one)

All available on ebay with a bit of searching, I have passed that many out in the last few years that my area is awash with bho for £10-£15 a gram :lol:

Plastic for spastics :wink:
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Medical grade stainless steel is the way
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I have been reading up on the Magic Butter machine and I cant seem to find anything on making smoke-ables. I have been searching and can only find the Honey bee that does this at a price thats realistic. Found some bitchin machine that uses C02 but that costs between $30k to well over $100k. Never knew we had moved on so far haha.

Anyway, Im not great at DIY jobs and i wouldnt trust that I could build something that wouldnt result in serious injury or severe loss of plant matter. Is there anything out there or am I restricted to Honey Bee? Will be the first to admit im pretty ignorant on the subject... sorry :D
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seanlyall wrote:I have been reading up on the Magic Butter machine and I cant seem to find anything on making smoke-ables. I have been searching and can only find the Honey bee that does this at a price thats realistic. Found some bitchin machine that uses C02 but that costs between $30k to well over $100k. Never knew we had moved on so far haha.

Anyway, Im not great at DIY jobs and i wouldnt trust that I could build something that wouldnt result in serious injury or severe loss of plant matter. Is there anything out there or am I restricted to Honey Bee? Will be the first to admit im pretty ignorant on the subject... sorry :D
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what about pollen shaker might try make a bit of nice pollen as hash is hard to come by in the uk and seems a little easier than extraction anyone any experiance with that and whats a good one to look into around and at a cheapest price
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