First strain for a newbie

[Marok21]

the problem is when you looking on strain reviews on leafly.com for example... they talk about the effects on people who have smoked weed before... so if you smoke weed for the first time the effect can be completly different.
So I would start with a light weed like outdoor stuff... if the effect is not "strong" enough you can try something stronger
For some first timers even outdoor can be too strong... some smoke really strong shit and feel nothing special so I would check up how he react on weed generally. On the other hand it´s weed you can´t overdose... but a whitey in Amsterdam is not nice, too

[michaelg]

Just saw this thread. If your husband is an inexperienced smoker and you want to minimize the risk of him getting anxious or paranoid, you dont want to go with a high thc strain. Most strains in dam contain very high levels of thc and very little cbd. You would want to find a strain or hash with lower levels of thc and high cbd.(remember, cbd=anti-anxiety). Siberie has compassion which is a cbd strain and definately a friendly strain for begginers. Also, 1ehulp has enemy of the state which is an indica with high cbd. Or go for some light moroccan hashes or some light afghan maybe. But definately dont go for the kushes, the hazes and the more high grade weed. You will be more sure with a cbd strain or some light hash. Peace

[floofenburger]

the problem is when you looking on strain reviews on leafly.com for example... they talk about the effects on people who have smoked weed before... so if you smoke weed for the first time the effect can be completly different.
So I would start with a light weed like outdoor stuff... if the effect is not "strong" enough you can try something stronger
For some first timers even outdoor can be too strong... some smoke really strong shit and feel nothing special so I would check up how he react on weed generally. On the other hand it´s weed you can´t overdose... but a whitey in Amsterdam is not nice, too

Yeah, I think we'll start with a giggly hybrid, perhaps outdoor. I'll ask the budtender what he recommends and in all likelihood, we'll end up going with the Jamaican depending on he describes the particular batch and what I see/smell. We'll see. The way I see it, though, potency doesn't really matter so long as you go slow enough. A good balanced hybrid and he should be fine so long as it's not a creeper that kicks in after 30 minutes. We're not smoking in a joint so there is no rush or need to pass back and forth every puff. He'll take a hit, wait a few minutes, see if he feels anything, then take another, rinse repeat. I'll make sure the rest in the bag doesn't go to waste while he waits .

Speaking of first times, anybody seen these three grandmas get stoned?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRBAZJ4lF0U?

[Badonkadonk]

I just read through this thread and you surely want the experience to be good for your husband and I hope that it will be. I think it can be wise to ask the budtender for advice, after all it's their job to recommend stains and hashes to their customers. And it's not an unusual question what is suitable for a first time smoker.

Be sure to report back and tell us how it was going for you. And be aware of the fact that it might take a couple of tries to get the effect when not used to cannabis. For me I didn't get stoned until the fourth time when I was trying it for the first time.

[floofenburger]

So he tried and it went OK. Enough that he'd be willing to try again anyway.

During the trip, I ended up deciding it would be better to try later so I was planning on waiting a year or so. Too many people in the coffeeshops and he didn't want to risk using the vape in the hotel. I figure we're gonna move to someplace weed is either more accepted or completely legal at some point soon, so there is no huge rush. To my surprise, in the train station heading home, my husband decides he wants some of my space cake. I had warned him about edibles before but figured it's OK because he was just gonna have a little and it was on a full stomach. Besides, it he wants to do it despite my warnings, it's his decision.

So about an hour in the trip, he starts laughing and giggling at nothing at all. I look over at him and he has these massive red eyes. Like really stoned. He ate maybe half a brownie that had .2 grams of Lemon Bubble in it. I told him that if he felt uncomfortable, he should talk to me and I can make it stop. He enjoyed it a while, and then it apparently peaked after about 2 hours and he said he felt a little out of control (I asked him later what specifically it was, and he said it was the fact that he couldn't stop giggling). So I gave him some Orangina, M&Ms, and had him sniff some black pepper. I told him "drink this and you won't be high anymore". Whether it was the placebo effect or not, he said he felt better immediately (either this was the placebo, or the black pepper worked as advertised). Sugar doesn't kick in *that* fast. He was, of course, still pretty stoned, but he wasn't worrying about it anymore which was the key. He then spent the rest of the trip mostly listening to music and playing some games on his Vita. By the time he arrived at home, he felt comfortable enough to take the baggage home on his own while I walked the dog. All arrived safely and happy.

At home I asked him how he liked it and he said he would probably have enjoyed it better at home. I agreed, and I told him, as previously, that setting is important. Next time we do Amsterdam, we'll wait until just arriving at our destination before eating the cakes. That way it won't kick in until we get home. By then, however, he'll probably have tried a vape and be more used to the effects. Also, we'll experiment with more strains to find something that works better for him. He was very sleepy on the Lemon Bubble, which being a sativa strain, is unexpected, but different people... I felt the cakes gave me a boost personally.

[OneHighMofo]

Brilliant news - really pleased it went well.
Surprised that the edible route was ok for the first time - I'm wary of edibles and am a 2g a day man so that's good going!

Winning!

[floofenburger]

Brilliant news - really pleased it went well.
Surprised that the edible route was ok for the first time - I'm wary of edibles and am a 2g a day man so that's good going!

Winning!

Well. I wasn't too worried. First of all, i'm pretty confident I can calm somebody down who is freaking out, mostly because I realize they're freaking out about nothing and I'm good at communicating that (or providing home remedies). Secondly, we had a deal that he would try weed under my conditions, so his trying at the train station (not my ideal conditions under any circumstance) would not have precluded further attempts. Thirdly, the edible was pretty weak and on a full stomach (for him).

As far as edibles go, I'm not really afraid of pot in that regard myself. I'm at the point when even if I smoke something that will make me paranoid/anxious (diesel strains) I can still rationalize the fear away or confront it. I've never treated fear while smoking pot as something to avoid. Instead, I've looked at it as a tool to show you what you're afraid of and give you an opportunity to rationalize / confront that fear. In short, I've never been so paranoid/anxious that I felt I could not confront, or otherwise get around that fear. Confronting your fears while high teaches you that there is nothing to fear, but that takes time to "train". Fears can come in many forms, but once "defeated" the experience gives no fear. At least that's my experience. I've never felt too high that I couldn't snap out of it.

Anyway, I've had really, really, strong edibles before. It's clearly a different experience to smoking, but at the same time the principle is the same for me. If I'm afraid, I can deal with it, and in the case of my husband, I was confident I could help him to deal with it. He's afraid of loosing control, so as long as he believes he's in control, he's fine. Some strains can bring out a paranoia where you're afraid you're fucking up when you're really doing fine. To deal with that, all I had to do was convince him he was no longer stoned (even though he was, edibles last a long longer than an hour or two). Either that worked, or the pepper did, in either case, he's open to trying again.

Really I wanted to have trying to be his choice in the first place, so him taking the initiative was a good sign. He's open to trying again and the experience was not bad for him. In any case, there is lots of time to try. He will be one of us. Just give him time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C4uTEEOJlM

[HelpfulJosh]

I would recommend Blue Cheese for a newbie smoker. It is also not too expensive. Sold at Blue Bird Jodenbreestraat coffeeshop. That is two times Blue easy to remember
http://www.theagenda.nl/v26253_coffeesh ... -bird.html
Or of course grow your own marijuana and smoke it. http://ilovegrowingmarijuana.com That is a grow community with lots of grow guides, idiot proof That way you know that there are no unhealthy chemicals in there and most self grown weed is not so strong so easier to use and less risk of overdosage.

[Willjay]

Sounds like you had a good time, and now you are going to have to learn to cook with cannabis

[floofenburger]

most self grown weed is not so strong

Most, but not the way I plan to do it when I move back to a place where it's legal.

[floofenburger]

now you are going to have to learn to cook with cannabis

What makes you think I don't already , although I'm more partial to making tinctures. The only reason I didn't do it more back in the day is because decarbing would make the whole place smell like weed. (although I only recently heard of the boiling bag technique, which I haven't tried). Some ground and decarbed high quality bud + Bacardi 151 + a few weeks in a dark place, shaking every day = super happy juice. Just a few drops under your tongue, or in some tea, and you're flying. Alternatively, you can use glycerine and vape the result in an e-cig, but the procedure differs slightly. The advantage to a tincture is it kicks in quicker, especially under the tongue.

[Lamont]

floofenburger, how much ground weed do you typically use when you make a batch of tincture?

[floofenburger]

floofenburger, how much ground weed do you typically use when you make a batch of tincture?

Depends on how much you want to make. Rule of thumb is to use enough high-proof alcohol to just cover the bud in a container such as a mason jar which you will then keep in a dark place and shake every day or so. Too much alcohol and you'll be making a weak tincture. If you want (and i've never tried this), you should be able to then further strengthen the resulting tincture by soaking even more weed in it (i've never seen a point to this, however, as the tinctures i've made have been strong enough as is with mid-grade bud).

The most important thing is to decarb the weed before (100C +- 10 degrees for 45 mins to an hour). This absolutely needs to be done or you'll just be wasting weed. Just be aware that if the temp is too high, you will vaporize either cannabinoids or other components that contribute to the experience, and that would be bad. Try making a small batch first and experiment a bit. If it works for you make a larger batch.

If done correctly, tinctures can be a very effective, efficient, and long lasting way of consuming weed. The effect is different, though, as with eating, so you will want to experiment with different strains.