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Schiphol introduces new passenger scan
10 May 2007

SCHIPHOL - Schiphol will introduce a new security scan for passengers next week. Frisking for prohibited items will no longer be necessary as a result, the airport announced on Wednesday.

Schiphol has been conducting trials with the new scan on flight attendants and pilots since last year. Early on there was opposition to the device because it scans through the individual's clothes, but in practice there were few objections.

Those using the scan prefer it to manual frisking.

Source: http://www.expatica.com/actual/article. ... y_id=39624

Damn, look at the effects terrosim has on weed

I know prestoned I feel the same way

I've never been frisked in AMS, have been getting on US planes, but frisking doesn't bother me. Full body xrays are an invasion of our privacy imho. How are they going to do this? Do they just randomly pick someone out or do all have to go through it and do you have a choice between frisking and the xray machine as we do here? We do from what I've read, for those of you who don't know.

There's an xray machine in an airport close to me and a friend of mine didn't know they had installed it and had weed in his crotch area. They xrayed him and didn't say a word... he went right on his way.

From what I read it's radio waves, not X-rays IG, it just produces a fuzzy image. X-rays would be too dangerous for frequent flyers.

yes I think tall guy is right, that would be like nukking your flyers and very dangerous for freqeunt flyers.

Here is the newest info I could find on the scanner from CBS news.

CBS) It wasn’t that long ago when this kind of airport security was the stuff of Hollywood fantasy, reports CBS News Correspondent Lee Cowan.

But that fantasy has now become a bare bones fact.

Ever since terrorist Richard Reid tried to detonate a bomb hidden in his shoes, the government has been searching for a faster, more efficient way to detect plastic explosives.

“The technology we’re using today, in some cases, can take 12 seconds to do a scan,” says Randal Null, Chief Technology Officer of the Transportation Security Administration. “We’d like to drive that down to a few seconds.”

So now, instead of looking at your shoes, Null says, “we are actually going to do a full body scan of an individual.”

Airport security screeners have the ability to take the shirt right off your back, “so all anatomical features are shown,” says Null.

It’s called Backscatter X-ray — low levels of radiation that could deliver high levels of embarrassment at airports all across the country.

Cowan demonstrated what its going to end up showing folks to Diane Marsh who says, shaking her head, “Oh no. I don’t like that. No I wouldn’t like that.”

Stacey and Elliot Goldstein of New York feel the same way.

“You feel like strangers are really looking at you,” Stacey says. “I don't know; it would really creep me out.”

But would you rather be patted down or would you rather go through this?

The $200,000 machine has already been tested at Orlando's International airport — where the x-rays of men were even more revealing.

Even the manufacturer was a little surprised at the clarity of some of its images and is now trying to do something to cover them up -- coming up with something the company calls an “electronic fig leaf.” But even without it, some passengers say it's okay to bare all.

Tanya Van Dorn from New York says she would be okay with that, “as long as they’re not saving it and putting it on the Internet.”

Miriam Schwarz agrees. “It’s not nice, but I guess in the world we live in today, it probably has to be.”

For now, the only thing passengers will have to continue to bare is their feet — a temporary fix to a problem some wish couldn't be so 'clearly' solved.
http://wwwimage.cbsnews.com/images/2003 ... 63840x.jpg

click on link to see actual scanner image

Looks like further research had shown me that the above scanners are only being used in the U.S. and in London's Heathrow.The Amsterdam scanner is different.Here is a press release on it

Amsterdam Airport Says Introduction of Radio Wave Security Scanners Has Gone Smoothly

AMSTERDAM, Netherlands (AP) -- Passengers hardly blinked at the introduction of a new security scanning system this week at Amsterdam's airport as part of anti-terrorism efforts, a spokeswoman said Wednesday, even thought the machine in essence allows guards to peer beneath their clothes.

"People figure, if this is going to let me get through the lines quicker, then I'll do it," said airport spokeswoman Miriam Snoerwang.

The "active millimeter wave" technology system under trial at Schiphol Airport is also being tested at airports in Mexico City and London, among others.

It differs from the "backscatter" system being tested in Phoenix, London, and at other airports, in that it uses low energy radio waves, rather than high-energy X-rays, to create a dim outline of a passenger's body.

Both systems allow guards to see any hard object, such as a gun, that passengers may have concealed under their clothes.

The machines at Schiphol are made by SafeView, an arm of New York-based L-3 Communications Holdings Inc., and, like the "backscatter" systems, are under consideration by the Department of Homeland Security for wider deployment in the United States.

Snoerwang said there had been no objections about the sacrifice of privacy for security since two machines were opened for public use Tuesday.

The guard who sees the image the machine produces is located away from the spot and doesn't physically see the person being scanned, whose face is also blurred on the image. If a passenger is approved, the guard examining the image then signals guards on the spot to let the person though.

Snoerwang declined to say whether images recorded by the machine were stored along with information identifying the passenger.

For now, passengers at one check-in gate and one departure gate have the option to either use the machine or go through regular security controls. The airport plans to eventually take 17 machines into service before deciding whether to adopt the system throughout its operations.

When personnel were tested earlier "there were some complaints, but they were being tested five times per week," she said.

Others favored using the system, she said. "It's much faster."

2007-05-16 09:21 GMT+01 hour
Starting today, the Security Scan at Amsterdam Airport Schiphol will be used for passenger security and Customs control procedures. The Security Scan is a machine that produces an image of the body contours using millimetre wave reflection technology. The image will tell security staff immediately whether a passenger is carrying any prohibited items on his or her body.

The introduction of the Security Scan at Amsterdam Airport Schiphol is a joint initiative of the NCTb (National Counter-Terrorism Coordinator), Customs authorities and Amsterdam Airport Schiphol.

Security Scan different from Body Scan
The Security Scan should not be confused with the Body Scan used by the Dutch Border Police (Koninklijke Marechaussee) for so-called 100% security screening at the airport. Unlike the Security Scan, the Body Scan uses X-rays that pass through the body to trace swallowed items.

Used by Customs and Amsterdam Airport Schiphol
Customs will use the Security Scan to find out whether passengers are smuggling items (such as drugs, cash or diamonds) in or underneath their clothing.

Schiphol uses the Security Scan to check departing passengers who, in accordance with the Civil Aviation Protection Act (Wet beveiliging burgerluchtvaart), must be screened before boarding.

The Security Scan is voluntary
From today, passengers will find a Security Scan at Pier H and another one near the Pier E gate. In the months to come, a total of 17 Security Scans will be installed in the Terminal. Subsequently it will be decided whether the Security Scan should be introduced for security control procedures on a larger scale. For the time being, passengers will have a choice between using the Security Scan or going through regular security procedures.

Faster and more client-friendly
Passengers will probably experience the Security Scan as a more client-friendly procedure, as it reduces the need for hand searches. The Security Scan is also expected to speed up the overall passenger screening process.


No health hazard, privacy guaranteed
Millimetre wave technology is entirely safe, as it involves the use of harmless millimetre waves that are reflected off the skin. Passengers are not exposed to any type of radiation, and their privacy is carefully guarded too. The Security staff member (image analyst) views the images in a closed space and is unable to see the person in the scan. As an extra privacy precaution, the passenger's head is made invisible.

thanks axe..good info

Here is what they can see.................

Badfrog wrote:So now, instead of looking at your shoes, Null says, “we are actually going to do a full body scan of an individual.”

But would you rather be patted down or would you rather go through this?

http://wwwimage.cbsnews.com/images/2003 ... 63840x.jpg

click on link to see actual scanner image

I will ALWAYS choose the pat down over the scanner... common sense for a woman or any stoner, really lol we ALL know how hard it is to part with certain things on occasion

Thank you for showing what they can see in your post back there, Badfrog... love this kind of info. so keep it comin'. I soak this stuff up like a sponge... knowledge is POWER

axeman9 wrote:Here is what they can see.................

I've been following this story recently as well and would like to add the following tidbit.

Here are a couple of pics that were attatched to THIS article.


Images on a security scan at Amsterdam's Schiphol airport. May 15th, 2007

These pics are lookin' "way" more invasive than the others posted on this thread.

The questions now are...

#1. "Which of these pics is the scanning process producing?"

#2. "How much raditation/radio waves goes with each?"

That's scary shit lctricity!!

You can see the full inside of the body there outrageous quite frankly...

WOW thank you, Lctricity and you're right they are waaaaaay too invasive!! Sheesh I can see the mans intestines! Holy cow are these ever different from what we've seen posted here.

From what it looks like, it's trying to see if someone has swallowed something, but that's not supposed to happen with "radio waves" which are supposed to be safer and less invasive than the xrays from what I've "read" hhmmmmmm I think you brought up a VERY good point, dude. Let's all keep watching this and ty again lctricity.

Peace,
IG

I passed through Gate H last Tuesday and I wasn't offered an option.... just normal metal detectors I'm afraid.