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After all How and Why
we ended up here in our own New Country......

Was to have different views and ideas....from the kingdom.....

If you think the Senate or Congress control what happens in this government.....You need to get a grip

If you think the President controls what happens to and in this country....

WRONG AGAIN.......


but wait a minute.....I'll bet you think Iraq.....bombed us on 911


And why did Tower 7 fall 8 hours after the other two towers fell....

oh yeah....tower 7......same building that they kept all the ENRON
court documents....and what was the other big friend of the president
company name that was also in deep shit....Worldcom....Tower 7....
guess who's security company...has the contract ....why "W"' brother

If you think I'm crazy......GOOGLE.....
what ever you want to know is out there....not like the old days...

But you have to want to know the real truth....and not what you are being spoon fed.....come on people ....spoon fed...like a baby....

Because they....the real people in power....would rather have us sucking our thumbs ( by over indulging in mas credit ) and lulled into a false sence

Before you call me un American TH....

Remember....Lemming said to address the message

Your rantings come at a time where we are being discredited as a nation..First off no I dont think Iraq bombed us due to the fact that most of the men on the planes where of Saudi nationality..Secondly I understand big business runs alot of the show but it is the Senate,Congress and the President that have the power to control our goings on..If you elect corruption expect corruption!What you said is Un-American if you dont like it do something to fix it instead of bitching on website about"Amsterdam".You enjoy every freedom afforded to you and yet you choose to use it bashing OUR country..We have helped England and many nations during times they would have otherwise lost their Independence through tyranny.You have the freedom of speech in this country and I am all for that but when it is used to put down what we have fought for it is disgraceful{i dont care how many ways you try to skew it for your needs}.No I dont like alot of what happens here but I still understand where we came from and the cost on many lives it has caused.And as for this

Remember....Lemming said to address the message

..If it is meant to be addressed to me ..I will never make excuses for my patriotism..I dont care who it is.I live in this country and am very proud to be a part of the NATION that allows me my freedom..So if you dont like it leave...

YOU ARENT TO PERSONALLY ATTACK ME

THAT IS WHAT LEMMING SAID...


I told you Lemming americans cant do it.....




what branch did you serve....
what have you given up...


Tell me IF IRAQ DID NOT ATTACK US...WHY ???



OR....seriously pay attention to your own words...and realize just exactly whom....we paid to do the dirty work.....


If you dont think our country has a history of doing dirty jobs...

Look at what the CIA is willing to realese...about our attempts to kill CASTRO.....Our goverment paying the mob....for several botched attempts
so you need to wake up....and see that we do stick our nose where it dosent belong

AND.....tell me....with all those amereican dollers being spent on rebuilding the WATER SYSTEMS....and ELECTRIC SYSTEMS.....why dont those things exist....

And before you go running over there to grab all those sub contractor
dollars....you are ready to grab.....

THAT MONEY SHOULD BE HERE...IN OUR OWN COUNTRY

FEEDING CHILDREN...MAKING SURE OUR CHILDREN HAVE AN EDUCATION

WE SHOULD BE MAKING SURE THAT EVERY CHILD HAS A SAFE HOME TO GO TO

THAT THE HOSPITALS ...GIVE HEALTH CARE TO ALL OF US....AND NOT JUST THE RICH

INSTEAD.........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................OF WASTING THE ALMIGHTY DOLLAR...FOR...SOMEONE ELSE'S OIL


LIKE I SAID...WAKE UP.....

THEY WANT THE OIL IN IRAN.................

Oh Yeah....If congress and the Senate is still in control.......

WHY......WONT GONZALEZ TESTFY.....



HELLO.......ITS THE OFF TOPIC SECTION...and who made you the police

The only reason I keep reading this thread is so I can see the monorail cat.

omfg maybe it was the orange haze but that image has be almost crying

what branch did you serve....
what have you given up...

I have lost many family members that did serve..As for our dirty little secrets we are not the only country to do these things so dont put that on us like we are..

THAT MONEY SHOULD BE HERE...IN OUR OWN COUNTRY

FEEDING CHILDREN...MAKING SURE OUR CHILDREN HAVE AN EDUCATION

WE SHOULD BE MAKING SURE THAT EVERY CHILD HAS A SAFE HOME TO GO TO

THAT THE HOSPITALS ...GIVE HEALTH CARE TO ALL OF US....AND NOT JUST THE RICH

INSTEAD.........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................OF WASTING THE ALMIGHTY DOLLAR...FOR...SOMEONE ELSE'S OIL

....And as for this statement I agree with you but if you think it only has to do with oil you are being spoon fed..We are protecting a people that were under a dictatorship like the one Hitler wanted for Europe..All I want is this current administration gone so we can get someone in there that isn't so deceitful..Bush has taken the Presidency and turned it into a joke..He should have never won in the first place but that is in the past.All I want is this great Country to get back to our former glory and peaceful standing with most of the World..I dont want to spend my time on this forum fighting with anyone..So lets just leave it at that we will agree to disagree on this subject..I am sorry for our sad state of affairs here..But one day it will all be better..

WE INVADED A SOVERIGN NATION....

Travel....can you tell me......FOR WHAT REASON

WE INVADED A SOVERIGN NATION....

I hope you dont think that was Iraq..He had killed hundred of thousands of Kurds..And I believe they would disagree with that statement..I believe we stopped a genocidal maniac that is a good reason why to do it..

So that gave us the right to INVADE A NATION......

well at least you didnt give the ....LAME Weapons of mass destraction

REGARDLESS.....of the reason you gave

WASENT OK BY THE UNITED NATIONS....

WHO ARE THE ONES WHO GET TO DECIDE WHO RIGHTFULLY HAS PERMISSION BY THE WORLD TO INVADE ANOTHER COUNTRY...

WITHOUT REPERCUSSIONS

Not THE MACHINE that runs us....

SO TRAVEL....TRY TO REASON....THAT

THE WORLD DID GIVE US PERMISSION...TO DESTROY....ECOLOGICALLY
....SPRITUALLY....ECONAMONICALLY....THIS AREA....COUNTRY
and PEOPLE

Had we done nothing during ww2 Europe would be a very different place.It is the same thing.Hitler had mass graves just like Saddam did..But I dont see you saying anything about that.We helped out England and various other countries..So why cant we do the same thing now....All I know is when the Iraqi's get everything in order there{getting rid of Iranian funded terrorism}they will be alot better off.The Shites and Sunnis will always be at odds as they have for many years but they be able to move to a more free place to live..And the Kurds wont have to live in fear anymore..One day what we did will bare the fruits of a more democratic nation in a very turbulent part of the World.

Well... Bush's grandad did sell weapons to Hitler. The main reason we wanted to bomb Japan is so we could set up camp in Asia. We were already afraid of Russia's rising at this time. In fact, Russia was ready to sign a peace treaty with Japan before we bombed them.

For those of you who haven't read "A People's History of The United States", you ought to. Backed up with loads of footnotes and quotes direct from the hands of those that changed history. If you think the founding fathers wanted everyone to vote...why couldn't women and non-landowners have the right?

what branch did you serve.... USMC,LANCE CORPORAL,
what have you given up... 6 YEARS OF MY LIFE....ID DO IT AGAIN...

come on USBL, more...i'm dying here