Abraxas
- metal4mullets
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BTW, I was being a bit tongue-in-cheek with my comment.
I'll admit that the American crowd we have in this forum seems to be comprised of very decent people. BUT...I still feel that as whole Americans tend to feel...mmm..."priviledged" when traveling abroad. Such as, "Everyone should speak English." and not making any attempt to learn another's language, etc. Whether you're an American or not you have to admit that our culture leans toward the spoiled and inconsiderate side.
I'll admit that the American crowd we have in this forum seems to be comprised of very decent people. BUT...I still feel that as whole Americans tend to feel...mmm..."priviledged" when traveling abroad. Such as, "Everyone should speak English." and not making any attempt to learn another's language, etc. Whether you're an American or not you have to admit that our culture leans toward the spoiled and inconsiderate side.
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Congrats on your citizenship!Dimon wrote:yesterday i got naturalized as an American citizen ,finally,after 12 years of misery,proud,very proud and happy,that,s an other side of the discussion,i was born in the barn,basically,but now i am a man!When in Amsterdam gonna be nice to everybody and not gonna treat them as my backyard,
Honestly, it's always nice to hear of people becoming naturalized as us born-and-bred 'mericans too often take for granted how fortunate we are to live here. I'm proud to have YOU aboard *bows*
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Congratulations DimonDimon wrote:yesterday i got naturalized as an American citizen ,finally,after 12 years of misery,proud,very proud and happy,that,s an other side of the discussion,i was born in the barn,basically,but now i am a man!When in Amsterdam gonna be nice to everybody and not gonna treat them as my backyard,
What a long strange trip it is.
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SeniorHippies
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Congratulations, Dimon
Congratulations, Dimon. Welcome to American citizenship. Be proud of it. Be a good example of it. I'm sure you can and will.
I'm a natural born and raised American citizen, and proud of it. I love my country, with all its faults, because of its virtues. I do not, however, feel we do not need or can't show improvement in many areas. I needn't rehearse them for the members of the forum. That being said, I would like to say that where ever they may come from, when idiots go abroad, they behave as idiots. When kind, considerate, thoughtful, courteous and loving people go abroad they behave as kind, considerate, thoughtful, courteous, loving people. People from both these categories live in every corner of every country. The quicker we learn to put aside the easy labels of nationality, religion, sexual orientation and so forth, the better the world will be. If an American is an idiot, treat him as an idiot. But please give him a chance to prove his idiocy. Don't deal with him based on the assumption he's an American and therefore an idiot; treat him as an idiot based on rational empirical observation of his idiocy. Our Dutch hosts are not immune to idiocy in its various forms. They have an open society to a large extent, but they are not endlessly tolerant, or uniformly enlightened. A Dutch friend from one of the shops once told me a Dutch saying; "You can tell a Dutchman, but you can't tell him much." Not all the crime in Amsterdam and the Netherlands is caused by tourists, non-Dutch residents, or foreign born Dutch citizens. Cruelty, greed, hate, violence, and stupidity are equal opportunity employers that know no national bounds.
We can only behave well ourselves, treat each other, in the forum and outside it, with kindness, consideration, thoughtfulness, courtesy, and love. We might get so good at it after a while, we can even forgive some of the idiots.
I'm a natural born and raised American citizen, and proud of it. I love my country, with all its faults, because of its virtues. I do not, however, feel we do not need or can't show improvement in many areas. I needn't rehearse them for the members of the forum. That being said, I would like to say that where ever they may come from, when idiots go abroad, they behave as idiots. When kind, considerate, thoughtful, courteous and loving people go abroad they behave as kind, considerate, thoughtful, courteous, loving people. People from both these categories live in every corner of every country. The quicker we learn to put aside the easy labels of nationality, religion, sexual orientation and so forth, the better the world will be. If an American is an idiot, treat him as an idiot. But please give him a chance to prove his idiocy. Don't deal with him based on the assumption he's an American and therefore an idiot; treat him as an idiot based on rational empirical observation of his idiocy. Our Dutch hosts are not immune to idiocy in its various forms. They have an open society to a large extent, but they are not endlessly tolerant, or uniformly enlightened. A Dutch friend from one of the shops once told me a Dutch saying; "You can tell a Dutchman, but you can't tell him much." Not all the crime in Amsterdam and the Netherlands is caused by tourists, non-Dutch residents, or foreign born Dutch citizens. Cruelty, greed, hate, violence, and stupidity are equal opportunity employers that know no national bounds.
We can only behave well ourselves, treat each other, in the forum and outside it, with kindness, consideration, thoughtfulness, courtesy, and love. We might get so good at it after a while, we can even forgive some of the idiots.
- Sir Niall of Essex-sire
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Re: Abraxas
Indeed, maybe we can one day reach the level of respect held for Americans in Europe eh?SeniorHippies wrote:I can easily see why the Brits are so well loved the world over. They get right to the heart of the matter with their trenchant analyses based on what they find when they've got their head up their "non-culturally arrogant" asses. I said very clearly I was taking a picture of the decor. There were no people in the frame at all. I said specifically I don't take pictures of anyone without their permission when I'm in the shops. Did you even read the post before replying?
Defeating evil with a thing called love
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Abraxas
You and I together, sir, shall work on it.
Re: Congratulations, Dimon
What can say,? Really well said.CheersSeniorHippies wrote:Congratulations, Dimon. Welcome to American citizenship. Be proud of it. Be a good example of it. I'm sure you can and will.
I'm a natural born and raised American citizen, and proud of it. I love my country, with all its faults, because of its virtues. I do not, however, feel we do not need or can't show improvement in many areas. I needn't rehearse them for the members of the forum. That being said, I would like to say that where ever they may come from, when idiots go abroad, they behave as idiots. When kind, considerate, thoughtful, courteous and loving people go abroad they behave as kind, considerate, thoughtful, courteous, loving people. People from both these categories live in every corner of every country. The quicker we learn to put aside the easy labels of nationality, religion, sexual orientation and so forth, the better the world will be. If an American is an idiot, treat him as an idiot. But please give him a chance to prove his idiocy. Don't deal with him based on the assumption he's an American and therefore an idiot; treat him as an idiot based on rational empirical observation of his idiocy. Our Dutch hosts are not immune to idiocy in its various forms. They have an open society to a large extent, but they are not endlessly tolerant, or uniformly enlightened. A Dutch friend from one of the shops once told me a Dutch saying; "You can tell a Dutchman, but you can't tell him much." Not all the crime in Amsterdam and the Netherlands is caused by tourists, non-Dutch residents, or foreign born Dutch citizens. Cruelty, greed, hate, violence, and stupidity are equal opportunity employers that know no national bounds.
We can only behave well ourselves, treat each other, in the forum and outside it, with kindness, consideration, thoughtfulness, courtesy, and love. We might get so good at it after a while, we can even forgive some of the idiots.
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- tastywaves
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Re: Congratulations, Dimon
Right on target, good job SeniorHippies. Ditto. Every person u meet, you have more in common than you think. Be happy in life you only get one chance.Dimon wrote:What can say,? Really well said.CheersSeniorHippies wrote:Congratulations, Dimon. Welcome to American citizenship. Be proud of it. Be a good example of it. I'm sure you can and will.
I'm a natural born and raised American citizen, and proud of it. I love my country, with all its faults, because of its virtues. I do not, however, feel we do not need or can't show improvement in many areas. I needn't rehearse them for the members of the forum. That being said, I would like to say that where ever they may come from, when idiots go abroad, they behave as idiots. When kind, considerate, thoughtful, courteous and loving people go abroad they behave as kind, considerate, thoughtful, courteous, loving people. People from both these categories live in every corner of every country. The quicker we learn to put aside the easy labels of nationality, religion, sexual orientation and so forth, the better the world will be. If an American is an idiot, treat him as an idiot. But please give him a chance to prove his idiocy. Don't deal with him based on the assumption he's an American and therefore an idiot; treat him as an idiot based on rational empirical observation of his idiocy. Our Dutch hosts are not immune to idiocy in its various forms. They have an open society to a large extent, but they are not endlessly tolerant, or uniformly enlightened. A Dutch friend from one of the shops once told me a Dutch saying; "You can tell a Dutchman, but you can't tell him much." Not all the crime in Amsterdam and the Netherlands is caused by tourists, non-Dutch residents, or foreign born Dutch citizens. Cruelty, greed, hate, violence, and stupidity are equal opportunity employers that know no national bounds.
We can only behave well ourselves, treat each other, in the forum and outside it, with kindness, consideration, thoughtfulness, courtesy, and love. We might get so good at it after a while, we can even forgive some of the idiots.
Peace 2 All...
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Re: Congratulations, Dimon
tastywaves wrote:Right on target, good job SeniorHippies. Ditto. Every person u meet, you have more in common than you think. Be happy in life you only get one chance.Dimon wrote:What can say,? Really well said.CheersSeniorHippies wrote:Congratulations, Dimon. Welcome to American citizenship. Be proud of it. Be a good example of it. I'm sure you can and will.
I'm a natural born and raised American citizen, and proud of it. I love my country, with all its faults, because of its virtues. I do not, however, feel we do not need or can't show improvement in many areas. I needn't rehearse them for the members of the forum. That being said, I would like to say that where ever they may come from, when idiots go abroad, they behave as idiots. When kind, considerate, thoughtful, courteous and loving people go abroad they behave as kind, considerate, thoughtful, courteous, loving people. People from both these categories live in every corner of every country. The quicker we learn to put aside the easy labels of nationality, religion, sexual orientation and so forth, the better the world will be. If an American is an idiot, treat him as an idiot. But please give him a chance to prove his idiocy. Don't deal with him based on the assumption he's an American and therefore an idiot; treat him as an idiot based on rational empirical observation of his idiocy. Our Dutch hosts are not immune to idiocy in its various forms. They have an open society to a large extent, but they are not endlessly tolerant, or uniformly enlightened. A Dutch friend from one of the shops once told me a Dutch saying; "You can tell a Dutchman, but you can't tell him much." Not all the crime in Amsterdam and the Netherlands is caused by tourists, non-Dutch residents, or foreign born Dutch citizens. Cruelty, greed, hate, violence, and stupidity are equal opportunity employers that know no national bounds.
We can only behave well ourselves, treat each other, in the forum and outside it, with kindness, consideration, thoughtfulness, courtesy, and love. We might get so good at it after a while, we can even forgive some of the idiots.
Peace 2 All...
What do you mean only one chance, don't you believe in reincarnation?