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o.k. I was finished with this but Dred you should listen to me when I say this.

I dont know you from anywhere and you DO NOT know me from a bunch of forums, I have been on three forums in my life including this one. Your one of the bandwagon jumpers, and your trying to be cool. You feel cool yet? If I know you then your one of those people who has different names and personas for each forum, and you admit to being a troll, let me know if I'm wrong. Keep kicking the dead horse to feel cool.

Yawn.
You're despised on every forum you visit.
You know zip about weed.
End of story

Lemming wrote:

I’m reluctant to play dictator by deleting posts or members because I believe in free speech and don’t want to start a war. Freedom must be exercised responsibly if it is not to be lost. It is for all of the members of the forum to keep it civilised.

I agree, but do keep in mind the forum is private property (yours) and not a street corner where free speech is (more or less) protected.

Past a certain point, and you have to decide where that point lies, the value of the forum can become diluted by anonymous posters who capitalize on their anonymity by posting aggressively, disrespectfully, etc.

As we all know, what one will say on an anonymous internet forum and what the same person will say to your face are often quite different.

Don't ever feel you are restricting free speech by insisting your forum users interact in a civil fashion. You get to make the rules, and your judicious exercise of adminstrative priveleges can occasionally help keep the signal to noise ratio high.

I am continually impressed with the level of fair play and respect amongst forum users here. Well done, mate, and keep up the good work.

There is more of this going on in the GROWSHOP thread
of course I did add my 2 cents....

Bottom line they need to behave....or be asked to leave, just like any
unruly guest would be asked to leave.....

Play Nice or Go Home.......

i didnt read all 11 pages,just had to post on the heroin/coke/crack issue.
heroin/crack-in my town the addicts in downtown are in a high number.they`re so broke and lungs so hurt from smokin crack they inject most anything.SHARING NEEDLES.my city now has a huge problem with thouseands of crackheads with aids.so far only 6 bodies of dead crack heads have been found after the aids are too overwhelming.
cocaine-the most expensive drug i`ve seen go so popular.30-65 a gram,that doesnt even get you high that long,and makes you anxious and much more easily agitated.ive seen some crazy ass coke heads try and stab people cause they were so fu!@%# paranoid.there is way too many things that can be laced with it.rat poison,baking soda(wont kill ya but not good),etc...and the withdrawl can be a bitch!.
You name one person you know who`s ever quit coke/crack/heroin and stayed off it and went on to live a COMPLETLEY normal life,with no ill effects.Weed is a quittable drug,it can be a little difficult but its attainable.the worst that can happen is that its laced with coke(cocoa puffs),which can cause illnesses but it doesnt have the actual coke withdrawl effects.It`s safe,its fully natural,its marijuana.

Oh, no, no, no, no. Please don't stir up ancient flame threads.

jeff_simms3@msn.com wrote:i didnt read all 11 pages,just had to post on the heroin/coke/crack issue.
heroin/crack-in my town the addicts in downtown are in a high number.they`re so broke and lungs so hurt from smokin crack they inject most anything.SHARING NEEDLES.my city now has a huge problem with thouseands of crackheads with aids.so far only 6 bodies of dead crack heads have been found after the aids are too overwhelming.
cocaine-the most expensive drug i`ve seen go so popular.30-65 a gram,that doesnt even get you high that long,and makes you anxious and much more easily agitated.ive seen some crazy ass coke heads try and stab people cause they were so fu!@%# paranoid.there is way too many things that can be laced with it.rat poison,baking soda(wont kill ya but not good),etc...and the withdrawl can be a bitch!.
You name one person you know who`s ever quit coke/crack/heroin and stayed off it and went on to live a COMPLETLEY normal life,with no ill effects.Weed is a quittable drug,it can be a little difficult but its attainable.the worst that can happen is that its laced with coke(cocoa puffs),which can cause illnesses but it doesnt have the actual coke withdrawl effects.It`s safe,its fully natural,its marijuana.

I wrote a long reply to this, but I just can't be arsed with the backlash. Open your eyes is all I will say.

As long as America is part of the UN they can not make it legal but it could be like it is in the NL. they could even tax it and could stop building jails for them. Not for nothing but who ever heard of a person getting stoned off of weed and then going out and committing crimes.
All of the drug law that were started in the USA were racist in the beginning.
Down with the UN go weed

The topic was "Why should weed NOT be legal"

Why are we discussing who is an asshole,fuckface,etc....ppp???

The only things I ve read:asshole,dumb ass,idiot,etc.....long list to go....


Just wanted to say that I was wondering,about these very agressiv debates.

AND THIS WAS NO OFFENCE......TO ANYONE! ! !


However,thanks for the Infos about AMSTERDAM,WEED,HASH,etc....



P.S. As I said before,dont take this too seriously....

Thanks.

This has been quite a read. Intintially I had some thoughts I wanted to share about the original debate before it went into self destruct mode.

At this point, however, I just want to extend my sincere thanks, respect for, and commendation of lemming for taking the stance that he has chosen in allowing members to be free to express themselves for perecived good or ill.

In many ways, in my view, his actions are the very essence of the original debate and these actions are in line with my own point of view. Human beings should be free to express themselves and experience their lives. The only line that matters and that should not be crossed is the line that we create for ourselves. Anything else will be despised and resisted as ever it has been and as ever it should. For we are, by very nature, free. Any attempt to become a "dictator" in the form of a government, or a web site moderator, removes that freedom and creates arbitrary lines.

By allowing the members to descend into bickering lemming has given each one of them the opportunity to define for themselves what their own lines are. Though it may not appear to be at first, this is a great gift. How else can we truly discover and define ourselves authentically? At the same time he has given them the opportunity to take responsibility for their own words and the chance to reconcile their differences.

A "friendly" web-site that is friendly merely because it has been censored, in my opinion, is, in the end, a friend to no one. This is beacuse it is an illusion, a farce, a fairy tale. The last thing our culture needs is to keep shoving dirt under the rug. We need to embrace our differences and confront our challenges if our species is going to continue to evolve.

Just like with marijuana and other drugs, most human beings are convinced that some authority has to step in and control things, or it would all fall into chaos. Very few people have the courage or the faith in the essential goodness of human nature and mother nature, to simply allow things to be what they are and trust that it will all work out.

So anyway, thanks lemming for existing and being who you are!

Sorry, but the essence of an original debate is not to offend others...

There was a debate? I thought it was a flame war...

(Can't believe I read all 11 pages)

BigRobb wrote:There was a debate? I thought it was a flame war...

(Can't believe I read all 11 pages)

You got it dude!

Hi Paco:

I think you may have misunderstood my meaning. The actions of lemming, in my opinion, speak to the original debate (meaning the debate that existed before the flame war broke out ). This debate was about freedom vs. control. Should drugs be legal? Should only some drugs like marijuana be legal and others against the law? This was the original debate that I was referring to.

A separate issue, among others, however, emerged through the thread. One of them was about getting the moderator to step in. When I refer to lemming's actions, I'm referring to his statement about letting everyone work it out for themselves and not wanting to restrict their free speech and the fact that he allowed everyone to say whatever they chose without restricting it. It is a statement of freedom and it says yes to the goodness of human nature. I too believe in freedom and the goodness of human nature, so I wish to applaud lemming.

My message was not meant to suggest that offending others is the essence of original debate!