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I haven't been at the dam too much but I imagine thats the place where the biggest amount of different breeds are exposed.. I was just wondering about an argument I overheard the other day. one guy was arguing that you could get laced marijuana in the dam while the other one was saying he had never heard aof such a thing, tat it was illegal blablabla.. are any of you aware or have heard of anything?

what I mean by laced marijuana is marijuana mixed with fine amounts of other drugs (in this case it was LSD)

these guys were two of my mates so that was funny, but the funniest was when the one saying you could get laced marijuana in the dam actually took a baggy of it out and told us to try it.. now I don't know if it was laced, but it was rather strong for the amount we put in.. and we giggled alot but nothing extraordinary..

Peace.
Scott.

no offense to your mates but that is just rediculous.

think about it like this.....most other drugs that you might consider laceing weed with actually are worth much more than the weed...so how would it be cost effective for the suppliers to mix more expensive drugs with less expensive...its just crazy. Back in the day in some of the asian countires you could get thai sticks and the like laced with opium.....opium is usually classified in the same groups as herion therefore anyone selling opium laced herb is essentially selling heroin...coffeeshop owners aren't gonna risk that.


not to mention that FACT that LSD is not smokable, flame/heat will destroy it.


I know in some of the medical clubs in California you can get herb that is dipped in hash/honey oil or rolled in kief. I think that is the extent of weed lacing these days.

Yeah not only is LSD illegal in the Netherlands, but i'm sure there would be some advertising law that could immediately close down any coffeeshops whom are adding illegal substances to any form of marijuana or cannabis - it would not be worth the risk, especially when the shop itself would not gain anything.

its not even legal for the shop to sell chemicall extracted cannabis oil.

(forgot that when writing my previous reply)

Mazdog knows his chemistry - LSD (D-lysergic acid diethylamide) is destroyed by heat. Opiates added to hashish manufactured in producing countries such as Afghanastan would be understandable, if not expected, as some (black) hashes do contain Opium.

There seems little incentive for anyone to alter weed by adding expensive chemicals however there is always someone willing to try I'm sure.

DoctorJim wrote:Mazdog knows his chemistry - LSD (D-lysergic acid diethylamide) is destroyed by heat. Opiates added to hashish manufactured in producing countries such as Afghanastan would be understandable, if not expected, as some (black) hashes do contain Opium.

There seems little incentive for anyone to alter weed by adding expensive chemicals however there is always someone willing to try I'm sure.

I'm sorry but the old opium laced hash is a load of bollox as well, why would a country like Afghanistan add opium that costs a hell of a lot more than hash to hash? it just doesn't make any sense economically!

Probably an old wives tale, I've heard they use old tires as well. Considering that countries such as Afghanistan are major producers of Opium the possiblity could exist I would guess. Whether it would economical I am not qualified to speculate.
The best way to confirm the validity would be to smoke only black hash for a week. If you find yourself totally constipated by the third of fourth day you could save yourself the possible withdrawl effects similar to heroin.

Mazdog knows his chemistry

yep yep you just gotta know what you are (allegedly in many cases) putting in your body. I love talking to people about LSD and E and things of the like that there are soooo many misconceptions about, it never ceases to amze me what people think they "know" about stuff like that.

I have very very little experience with hash, but i always hear that the afghan hashes have opium in them. I find it hard to believe...maybe years ago before the whole "War on Drugs" thing but i'd really doubt it these days.
I did read about a large shipment of opium a few years back that was "hidden" in block of hash......quite funny when i read it.

ok.. good to know..

how about weed with shrooms? that must exist somewhere.. right? any of you know?

psylocibin(sp?) (the active ingredient in "magic" mushrooms) also does not mix well with heat. It is theortically possible to vaporize psylocibin but you would end up destroying far more then you ingest.

Here in the states, paticularlly on the west coast people will lace weed with PCP. This again is done knowingly as an easy means to transport and distribute the PCP. This stuff is very hard to get and from my understand pretty much only available in the ghettos in LA or thru "gangsta" type connections. Not my cup of tea so i don't really know.

how about weed with shrooms? that must exist somewhere.. right? any of you know?

Sure, anyone with buds and mushrooms could mix the two together then eat the mixture. WHY? What would be the point?

You smoke cannabis and you eat mushrooms for the most part.

When I'm in Amsterdam I have zero concerns about laced pot. This seems to be a blessing from the Dutch policy. All the cannabis I have ever purchased in Amsterdam was clean. Thats not to say that it was all good.

Here in the U.S. I am more corcerned for the health of smokers who smoke commercial grade cannabis that may of been sprayed with pesticides, contain mold and who knows what from that bricked crap.

mazdog wrote:psylocibin(sp?) (the active ingredient in "magic" mushrooms) also does not mix well with heat. It is theortically possible to vaporize psylocibin but you would end up destroying far more then you ingest.

Here in the states, paticularlly on the west coast people will lace weed with PCP. This again is done knowingly as an easy means to transport and distribute the PCP. This stuff is very hard to get and from my understand pretty much only available in the ghettos in LA or thru "gangsta" type connections. Not my cup of tea so i don't really know.

How come shrooms are so often taken in hot tea or is that not hot enough to destroy the good shit? Genuine curiosity and not trying to be clever

the heat generated from the burning of organic substances (like when you light up a cigarette/joint) is probably between 7 and 9 times hotter than the heat generated from a boiling cup of tea..

why? because to boil a cup of tea, you simply need to heat the water to a point of chemical volatility; i.e. between 90 and 110 degrees Celcius depending on the purity of the water. Now however, the burning part of a cigarette is known to be around 800 degrees Celcius.

so yea.. basically, hot tea (100 degrees) is definatly not enough heat to brake down Psylocibin (or mescalin tbh..), but according to Mazdog, the burning of tabacco (800 degrees) does.. which is understandable.

end of story?

/\/\/\/\ That's pretty much what i would say.....some of the psy. is destroyed when making tea it just a very minimal amount.

I believe mescaline is actually tolerant of even higher temps cause tea is a normal preparation for peyote and i've not heard that that is not a bad way to go about it.

are you implying mescalin is smokeable...?

SuperSkunk laced Mescalin - "Dirty Scott Herrer".......................

I can already see it in my dream's coffeeshop