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Cannabis health risk 'not rising'

Posted: Wed 28th Jan 2009 11:06 pm
by rks0
Men who take cannabis regularly have a one in 5,000 chance of developing a disease like schizophrenia, according to one of the top drug specialists in the UK.

But Professor David Nutt, who chairs the government's Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs (ACMD), told Newsbeat the risk to mental health from smoking cannabis is no greater than getting drunk.

"We've written three reports and read every paper published for the last 30 years. We do not believe the risks are going up," he said.

"When we look at the evidence, we have seen a huge increase in the use of cannabis but a fall in schizophrenia."



"Alcohol is probably more likely to cause dependence than cannabis.

"It causes brain damage through vitamin deficiency and withdrawal can lead to psychosis. Overall the mental health risks of alcohol and cannabis are not dissimilar."


The government has upgraded cannabis to a Class B substance this week against the advice of the ACMD, partly because it says there is growing evidence it does damage mental health.

The drug has been closely linked to schizophrenia, an illness which can cause hallucinations, paranoid or bizarre delusions and disorganised speech and thinking.


Alec Jacobs from Kent used to be a heavy cannabis smoker

Twenty-nine-year-old Alec Jacobs from Kent was a heavy cannabis user before developing the disease in his early 20s.

"I was hearing voices and getting anxious and depressed. I think cannabis definitely played a part in doing something to me," he told Newsbeat.

"I was smoking a lot of skunk which I think sent me into a psychosis.

"By the age of 21, I found it hard being around people and I couldn't smoke it anymore because it wasn't doing me any good whatsoever.

"I think there is definitely a lasting effect. I still get depressed and anxious and feel sort of trapped in a way."

But Professor Nutt from the ACMD reckons the link between cannabis use and that kind of severe mental health problem is "probable but weak".

The latest research suggests the government would have to stop 5,000 men and 12,000 women from smoking cannabis to prevent a single case of schizophrenia in both groups.

"Using cannabis will tip a few people over the edge but in terms of most of the population, there isn't really a risk there," he said.


The vast majority of people with the schizophrenia tend to suffer personal problems like depression but the most extreme cases can lead to dangerous behaviour.

Marc Middlebrook, 27, was sentenced to life imprisonment last year for stabbing his girlfriend Stevie Barton to death because he believed she was part of a plot to kill him.

The court heard that he had made his mental problems worse by "stubbornly" continuing to smoke cannabis after doctors told him to stop.
Newsbeat spoke to Stevie's mother Jackie, a former psychiatric nurse.

She said she didn't blame the drug for her daughter's death.

"I always say cannabis didn't kill my daughter, Marc did," she said. "I know lots of people - doctors, professionals, nurses - who have smoked cannabis for years and do not commit crimes."

"It's no good standing there wagging your finger and saying this is wrong. People need to be able to know the facts and there is a lot of information and counter information around cannabis use at this time."

"What message are you giving to people when you downgrade cannabis to a Class C and then take it back up to a Class B? It's that you don't know what you are doing."

"Let's not turn this into a witch hunt. Let's not damn all cannabis users, that would be wrong.

"We need an adult approach. Let's get some education."


http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/healt ... 852776.stm

Posted: Thu 29th Jan 2009 10:56 pm
by Ingwey Gooblebogger
What the prohibitionists fail to mention is that there is NO causative link between cannabis and mental illness.

Any person with underlying mental illness, probably should not use any pyscho-active substance. (Including alcohol).

The fact that someone, in their late teens / early 20's, then develops schizophrenia, often occurs regfardless of their prior or current substance use.

Furthermore, many folks with mental illness "self-medicate". So, when prohibitionists examine some of these folks they then note "Gee, they used cannabis AND they have mental illness there must be some causative explantion". THAT is NOT Science, but rather poor investigative/research methodology!!!

The mental health / Cannabis connection is pure bullshit!
The fact that lawyers use it, as a defense strategy, is simply due to the fact that they are using any argument to mitigate their client's culpability, no matter how false the argument. If they can get a jury to but it, then the defense lawyers will use it.

Posted: Sat 31st Jan 2009 03:13 pm
by EdinburghBoy
Ingwey Gooblebogger wrote:What the prohibitionists fail to mention is that there is NO causative link between cannabis and mental illness.

Any person with underlying mental illness, probably should not use any pyscho-active substance. (Including alcohol).

The fact that someone, in their late teens / early 20's, then develops schizophrenia, often occurs regfardless of their prior or current substance use.

Furthermore, many folks with mental illness "self-medicate". So, when prohibitionists examine some of these folks they then note "Gee, they used cannabis AND they have mental illness there must be some causative explantion". THAT is NOT Science, but rather poor investigative/research methodology!!!

The mental health / Cannabis connection is pure bullshit!
The fact that lawyers use it, as a defense strategy, is simply due to the fact that they are using any argument to mitigate their client's culpability, no matter how false the argument. If they can get a jury to but it, then the defense lawyers will use it.
Absolutely agree I have had OCD since I was 9 years old (Im now 41) I was 20 when I started toking, I can honestly say it has not affected my mental state in regards the OCD in the slightest, BUT my Dr has tried to make a link and I keep telling him that I had this condition well before I smoked dope and marijuana has made no difference to the severity.

PS Please don't think us OCD sufferers are nutjobs, we most certainly are not !!

Posted: Sat 31st Jan 2009 08:01 pm
by greenleaf420
hahaaha marijuana a health risk ahahaha FUCK YOU and ur neigh saying chronies lying theiving pharm fuckers. wut about all those health risked drugs the big pharm puts out for us to use. DEATH PEDDLERS #1