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Posted: Fri 27th Mar 2009 01:41 pm
by Sir Niall of Essex-sire
You also have to factor in social attitudes, for example the dutch are not just tolerant and logical when it comes to cannabis use, its a factor which can be seen throughout society in their attitude to prostitution for example, albeit a pretty obvious example. There are still large parts of England which believe it is still like the ' good old days ' and legalising cannabis would shock these people and there outdates view on modern English society as well as the nature of drugs. The key factor with the legalisation of cannabis will be time, as the new generations move into power, they will change laws accordingly. Untill then, nothing will change imo.

Posted: Fri 27th Mar 2009 02:00 pm
by Trichome_Dense
Sir Niall of Essex-sire wrote:You also have to factor in social attitudes, for example the dutch are not just tolerant and logical when it comes to cannabis use, its a factor which can be seen throughout society in their attitude to prostitution for example, albeit a pretty obvious example. There are still large parts of England which believe it is still like the ' good old days ' and legalising cannabis would shock these people and there outdates view on modern English society as well as the nature of drugs. The key factor with the legalisation of cannabis will be time, as the new generations move into power, they will change laws accordingly. Untill then, nothing will change imo.
Yeah, you're probably right.. the more I think about it - the more I beleive this is the status quo!

It's a shame though.... It should never have been made Illegal, why is it the innocent always suffer the most. :? Dont answer that question, I just wanna be emotional...

Posted: Fri 27th Mar 2009 02:40 pm
by NirvanaEJ
kind of off topic but i feel its relevant

New York State to repeal most of the archaic Rockefeller Drug Laws

http://ny1.com/content/top_stories/9636 ... fault.aspx

Posted: Fri 27th Mar 2009 06:42 pm
by lampshade
Sir Niall of Essex-sire wrote:You also have to factor in social attitudes, for example the dutch are not just tolerant and logical when it comes to cannabis use, its a factor which can be seen throughout society in their attitude to prostitution for example, albeit a pretty obvious example. There are still large parts of England which believe it is still like the ' good old days ' and legalising cannabis would shock these people and there outdates view on modern English society as well as the nature of drugs. The key factor with the legalisation of cannabis will be time, as the new generations move into power, they will change laws accordingly. Untill then, nothing will change imo.
That makes a lot of sense, I tend to agree it will take only time.

Posted: Fri 27th Mar 2009 07:01 pm
by sh@dy
NirvanaEJ wrote:kind of off topic but i feel its relevant

New York State to repeal most of the archaic Rockefeller Drug Laws

http://ny1.com/content/top_stories/9636 ... fault.aspx
at least one step!

Posted: Sat 28th Mar 2009 07:33 am
by Ingwey Gooblebogger
You also have to factor in social attitudes, for example the dutch are not just tolerant and logical when it comes to cannabis use, its a factor which can be seen throughout society in their attitude to prostitution for example, albeit a pretty obvious example. There are still large parts of England which believe it is still like the ' good old days ' and legalising cannabis would shock these people and there outdates view on modern English society as well as the nature of drugs. The key factor with the legalisation of cannabis will be time, as the new generations move into power, they will change laws accordingly. Untill then, nothing will change imo.
Actually, I think that it is the Dutch pragmatism which allows for the coffeeshops and legal prostitution, rather than a particularly high level of tolerance.

Hashish was made illegal by the League of Nation's (Forerunner to the UN) revised International Opium Convention, in the the 1920's. (Signed in 1925, went into effect in 1928.)

It was not even part of that treaty until some joker from Egypt, said that if opium was to be declared illegal, then why not hashish. He then went on to some fantastical lengths to portray hashish as the very epitome of evil. After which, the stupid fuckers, who did not have a clue about hash, decided to add hashish to the opium treaty.

Later, Cannabis, in all its forms, other than hemp, was made illegal, in "Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs", in the early 1960's. Although, I think the US banned Cannabis in the 1930's (For some reason 1937 springs to mind, but I am not sure about that.) Many other countries soon followed suit, thinking that the US was on the right track. :roll:

Posted: Sat 28th Mar 2009 01:42 pm
by NirvanaEJ
i believe you are talking about this, thank Harry Anslinger.

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/hem ... taxact.htm

The Marijuana Tax Act didnt even make cannabis illegal, bec technically thats unconstitutional, they just said in order for one to possess, grow, etc youd need a tax stamp but you must have the pot in order to get the stamp, and the stamp in order to get the pot. Timothy Leary fought this and it was overturned as the law forced ppl into self incrimination. The current prohibiton is illegal, as they needed a constitutional ammendment to ban alcohol, not just a law "passed"