Governmental authorities want you to believe they have heat-detecting devices which they commonly use to peer through your walls and detect that you are growing hooch (as opposed to, say, using your tanning bed, or your washer-dryer, or your dishwasher, which is super-hot, re-heated hot water that's blazing a lot more centigrades and fahrenheits than any grow lights).
They also would like you to think they have pistols that can shoot through buildings and anti-missile capability to thwart any nation. And that smoking hooch is bad for you, but deadly alcohol and cigarettes, which they tax the shit out of, are acceptable. And that by flying over millions upon millions of square miles each summer, they can detect the vast majority of outdoor growing plots, and take you down for it.
And it's all bullshit.
Yes, there is technology that can detect heat through walls. Yes, the government can use it to detect grow rooms. All true. And so is this: They can't go house to house using it, or use it indiscriminantly, because it takes time, energy and money. It also takes the technology, which isn't available in most local jurisdictions. And most of all, this also is true: If they use the technology to come after your hooch-growing operation -- listen closely here -- they already suspect you.
The most likely way they could find you is by whatever stupid activity outside the process of germination-to-harvest you may do -- most commonly, sharing info with "friends," or selling illegal substances -- or, God forbid, in the rare event that you get served a search warrant for something totally unrelated, which is the only real happenstance way they can get you. Then, they take you down and tell the public what a massive success it all was, especially when they put some ridiculous price tag on the value of the haul, which is probably when you finally figure out what I'm trying to say:
It's all bullshit, although I must give credit -- the propaganda works.
If you run a 400-w MH, a 600-w HPS (fluorescents have no application in hooch growing, save for germination), use an ozone generator to knock out the smell, and use an exhaust fan to blow the ozone out, you aren't going to get popped indoors unless you're doing something stupid outdoors.
As for outdoors, there's a big, big, big world out there, and still many parts where no one goes. ... Find one, on land you do not own, make sure it's on a place difficult for you to get to (and therefore for others), take that beautiful seed, plant in that wonderful soil (which you must improve in advance), make trips discreetly at dawn as needed, and the chances are next-to-freaking-zero of detection. They might get the crop. They almost never get the grower.
What I would like to see is a 4-20 day internationally devoted to a Johnny Appleseed-type endeavor. If we all scatter-planted all our seed in late April, in every imaginable place, there would be no way to stop the onslaught. ...
home growing
Been toying with the idea of a home grow for a long time now and have been studying meticulously for it. Bought a copy of the indoor bible, Jorge cervantes and have so far built my grow cabinet, lined it with mylar. Got everything sorted apart from a carbon filter. That i will be buying within the next couple of months just in time for crop 2.
My lightin consists of 1 red 125watt enviro and 1 blue 125 watt enviro in duel reflector and im growing as organicly as i possibly can in a 40% compost, 30% coco and 30% perlite grow medium. Im trying 2 get some bat guano 2 use as fert but it is like gold dust to get a hold of. Probably end up using chicken poop instead. I never thoght it would be so hard 2 attempt growing weed. All the reading. My brain really hurts from reading and the bloody seeds aint even in the pot yet. I dont expect 2 get much from such a small grow but anything will be a result.
I will post loads of pics as i go along on another thread once i get back from my hols. Wish me luck guys
Peace.
My lightin consists of 1 red 125watt enviro and 1 blue 125 watt enviro in duel reflector and im growing as organicly as i possibly can in a 40% compost, 30% coco and 30% perlite grow medium. Im trying 2 get some bat guano 2 use as fert but it is like gold dust to get a hold of. Probably end up using chicken poop instead. I never thoght it would be so hard 2 attempt growing weed. All the reading. My brain really hurts from reading and the bloody seeds aint even in the pot yet. I dont expect 2 get much from such a small grow but anything will be a result.
I will post loads of pics as i go along on another thread once i get back from my hols. Wish me luck guys
Peace.
pass the skins
I just finished a wardrobe grow with enviro's. Well a single 200w enviro TBH.
I managed 4 female lowriders out of 10, which I hear are about 50/50 M/F so Im happy with that. The smoke is curing at the moment but I have snaffled one or two buds early to test and I can safely say it aint bad at all.
Thing with enviro's is they are cooler than HPS or MH and 100% p.a.r. so all the light spectrum given out is usable by the plant. Some flouro's have different spectrums so check the specs of them before you buy!
Nothing beats HPS or MH for lumens though.
I managed 4 female lowriders out of 10, which I hear are about 50/50 M/F so Im happy with that. The smoke is curing at the moment but I have snaffled one or two buds early to test and I can safely say it aint bad at all.
Thing with enviro's is they are cooler than HPS or MH and 100% p.a.r. so all the light spectrum given out is usable by the plant. Some flouro's have different spectrums so check the specs of them before you buy!
Nothing beats HPS or MH for lumens though.
Sounds like the reading is paying off mate. I just used a 200w blue. The lows are damn easy to grow, other strains that dont auto flower are a little more work as your space has to be 100% light tight to get the 12hrs of dark. Look forward to the pics!My lightin consists of 1 red 125watt enviro and 1 blue 125 watt enviro in duel reflector and im growing as organicly as i possibly can in a 40% compost, 30% coco and 30% perlite grow medium. Im trying 2 get some bat guano 2 use as fert but it is like gold dust to get a hold of. Probably end up using chicken poop instead. I never thoght it would be so hard 2 attempt growing weed. All the reading. My brain really hurts from reading and the bloody seeds aint even in the pot yet. I dont expect 2 get much from such a small grow but anything will be a result.
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Hey redeye. I was thinking of trying the lowriders becausse of my obvious
lack in growing space but every site i find that sells lowrider seeds are never in stock. Do u know any good companies?? 4 out of 10 aint bad mate. How much dya reckon u got there once dried. I've heard those puppies can yield an oz a plant. On the downside i've heard they aint the best smoke 2. Any pics would be nice 2 mate if u can. Is there much manicuring in a plant that small?? Did it take them the stated 9 weeks 2 mature fully? When did you notice the males and was it easy 2 spot??
Hundreds of Q's mate Pm me if u can
Peace
lack in growing space but every site i find that sells lowrider seeds are never in stock. Do u know any good companies?? 4 out of 10 aint bad mate. How much dya reckon u got there once dried. I've heard those puppies can yield an oz a plant. On the downside i've heard they aint the best smoke 2. Any pics would be nice 2 mate if u can. Is there much manicuring in a plant that small?? Did it take them the stated 9 weeks 2 mature fully? When did you notice the males and was it easy 2 spot??
Hundreds of Q's mate Pm me if u can
Peace
pass the skins
Well it was a first try and they aint dry properly yet but i reckon there is about a couple of oz's. You would probably get more with either more or stronger lights.
Try http://www.skunk.co.uk
I got mine from the Joint Doctor:
www.skunkmarket.com/product_info.php?cP ... ts_id=218
Try http://www.skunk.co.uk
I got mine from the Joint Doctor:
www.skunkmarket.com/product_info.php?cP ... ts_id=218
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The heat seeking cameras are for real my friends new stepdad works for the OHP and he flies a airplane equiped with two of these camera's, they mainly use them to find escaped prisioners, these are the same cams used in news helicopters, and the big mistake most growers make is doing it in the attic, as far as this being prophaganda, they just busted a CPA with 18 plants in his house, and cops here have been waiting for the growers, doing steakouts and busting him. I was stunned to find out that they had busted a lawyer for cultivation, but they were making an example out of him I guess. Also Texas pigs flew over the Red River(state line) to get a buddys plants from his grow site by the river, they came down in a helicopter, chopped every plant off at ground level, all 18 had about two weeks left and lots of budsGovernmental authorities want you to believe they have heat-detecting devices which they commonly use to peer through your walls and detect that you are growing hooch (as opposed to, say, using your tanning bed, or your washer-dryer, or your dishwasher, which is super-hot, re-heated hot water that's blazing a lot more centigrades and fahrenheits than any grow lights).
They also would like you to think they have pistols that can shoot through buildings and anti-missile capability to thwart any nation. And that smoking hooch is bad for you, but deadly alcohol and cigarettes, which they tax the shit out of, are acceptable. And that by flying over millions upon millions of square miles each summer, they can detect the vast majority of outdoor growing plots, and take you down for it.
And it's all bullshit.
Yes, there is technology that can detect heat through walls. Yes, the government can use it to detect grow rooms. All true. And so is this: They can't go house to house using it, or use it indiscriminantly, because it takes time, energy and money. It also takes the technology, which isn't available in most local jurisdictions. And most of all, this also is true: If they use the technology to come after your hooch-growing operation -- listen closely here -- they already suspect you.
The most likely way they could find you is by whatever stupid activity outside the process of germination-to-harvest you may do -- most commonly, sharing info with "friends," or selling illegal substances -- or, God forbid, in the rare event that you get served a search warrant for something totally unrelated, which is the only real happenstance way they can get you. Then, they take you down and tell the public what a massive success it all was, especially when they put some ridiculous price tag on the value of the haul, which is probably when you finally figure out what I'm trying to say:
It's all bullshit, although I must give credit -- the propaganda works.
If you run a 400-w MH, a 600-w HPS (fluorescents have no application in hooch growing, save for germination), use an ozone generator to knock out the smell, and use an exhaust fan to blow the ozone out, you aren't going to get popped indoors unless you're doing something stupid outdoors.
As for outdoors, there's a big, big, big world out there, and still many parts where no one goes. ... Find one, on land you do not own, make sure it's on a place difficult for you to get to (and therefore for others), take that beautiful seed, plant in that wonderful soil (which you must improve in advance), make trips discreetly at dawn as needed, and the chances are next-to-freaking-zero of detection. They might get the crop. They almost never get the grower.
AmeriSkunk
Hi den,
They have lowryders at uk420, £30 for 10 seeds Click here I'm thinking about getting some myself having read about them on the 420 site. I will try my local seedshop first http://www.natural-mystic.co.uk As I can call in and pay cash rather than have some credit card transaction that connects me with a seed shop
John.
They have lowryders at uk420, £30 for 10 seeds Click here I'm thinking about getting some myself having read about them on the 420 site. I will try my local seedshop first http://www.natural-mystic.co.uk As I can call in and pay cash rather than have some credit card transaction that connects me with a seed shop
John.
A very, very good point.courtjester wrote:And it's all bullshit.
Yes, there is technology that can detect heat through walls. Yes, the government can use it to detect grow rooms. All true. And so is this: They can't go house to house using it, or use it indiscriminantly, because it takes time, energy and money. It also takes the technology, which isn't available in most local jurisdictions. And most of all, this also is true: If they use the technology to come after your hooch-growing operation -- listen closely here -- they already suspect you.
However, police have heat-sensing technology that is much easier, cheaper and quieter to use. Dutch cops already use it to get an idea of houses which may warrant extra attention.
You can now buy a handheld IR thermometer for about $25, and more accurate ones for only a little more.
One of these devices can take a reading of the temp of any object or surface just by pointing and clicking. The models I've seen work at a distance of about 25m. Pro models are probably better.
IR thermos are not super accurate (the further away the object that's being measured, the wider the field that's read), but they're definitely good enough to, say, cruise down a street in a cop-car, pointing them at every attic-space or visible window. If one or two houses have areas that are noticeably warmer than the surrounding houses, this can be noted and further investigation may be made.
It's true that, for the most part, surveillance is done on targets (sorry, should say 'people') the police are already interested in.
But with IR thermos cops really could conduct heat surveys of an entire neighbourhood, without anyone noticing the sound of choppers overhead.
Having a warm attic or basement would not lead directly to a bust, but it could set off a chain of events that eventually lead to one.
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Hey bigjohn. I seen the 420 store. Some good bargains. Im very interested in the lowriders at the moment but due to my holiday being 3 days away i aint startin anything till i come back on the 21st. Then it will be a couple of my friends NL clones i will grow out. Next time round will see me start from seed. Money is always a factor in these types of projects so if i can get stuff for free i always take it.
I just had 2 turn down a 400 watt hps coz there was'nt enough space in my cab im gutted about that as it would have saved me £105. As it stands my mate needs 2 cut his 2 sativas down at the end of the month. A good 3 weks before they are due. Damn private landlords!! I dont even have enough room 2 take 1 of his plants 
Peace.
I just had 2 turn down a 400 watt hps coz there was'nt enough space in my cab im gutted about that as it would have saved me £105. As it stands my mate needs 2 cut his 2 sativas down at the end of the month. A good 3 weks before they are due. Damn private landlords!!
I dont even have enough room 2 take 1 of his plants Peace.
pass the skins
A few years ago the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that finding an IR hot spot by flying over neighborhoods was not sufficient to establish probable cause for further investigation.
In many cities, the flyovers for that purpose have stopped. Before that time there were smallish (police type) choppers flying all over my area quite a bit in the evening.
Depending upon the area, and the local constabulary's inclination and budget, this was indeed practiced. It's not "profitable" now since they can't just go snooping around (get your electricity usage records) based simply on a flyover.
In many cities, the flyovers for that purpose have stopped. Before that time there were smallish (police type) choppers flying all over my area quite a bit in the evening.
Depending upon the area, and the local constabulary's inclination and budget, this was indeed practiced. It's not "profitable" now since they can't just go snooping around (get your electricity usage records) based simply on a flyover.
