Obama's Department of Justice Prosecution of Medical Marijua

[sonicblue]

Hang on just one minute.

I'm familiar with this case.

Lynch was arrested in 2007 under the Bush administration. (There's a problem with making laws retroactive. Consider that you did something two years ago that was legal and is now illegal. See what I mean?)

The Federal government contends his shop on numerous occasions sold pot to minors.

If it is true his shop sold marijuana to minors then under any policy even complete legalization he would be guilty of a crime.

If the Federal government is wrong about the minors issue then Lynch should not be convicted.

I can tell you this much. As a California resident and smoker I have an idea about what goes on. Though I have no personal knowledge of Lynch's shop, I can assure you that some shops here in California have not been in compliance with state law.

The number of raids I hear about has dropped. Shops are keeping in compliance. Employees are all educated on state as well as federal law.

From my perspective things are looking better.

[stew1974]

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[beejun]

Damn sir nas. No offense. But you make too much noise for not a lot.
And yes i still think the MJ issues should go first.
We are not in 1950 no more. Now you see gays on tv and in magazines, on the streets, etc, so dont come and tell me they dont allready have enough rights coz that is bullshit. Mj users get prosecuted but its ok for you?
maybe you on the dark side of the force too and thats why you have such interest in gay issues. Why they can have gay clubs and we cant have coffeeshop?

[Sir Niall of Essex-sire]

Damn sir nas. No offense. But you make too much noise for not a lot.
And yes i still think the MJ issues should go first.
We are not in 1950 no more. Now you see gays on tv and in magazines, on the streets, etc, so dont come and tell me they dont allready have enough rights coz that is bullshit. Mj users get prosecuted but its ok for you?
maybe you on the dark side of the force too and thats why you have such interest in gay issues. Why they can have gay clubs and we cant have coffeeshop?

Yea maybe your right, how dare a gay person appear on tv and in magazines and even, god forbit, walk down the street. They should stay in their homes with their un-Godly lifestyle and wait until their death so they can be punished for eternity in the hot country.

So you conside the point that by taking a mj issue over human right issues

And yes i still think the MJ issues should go first

in the 1950s in the USA you would of lost interest in the racial equality because your attention would of been focused on the cannabis legalisation issue? If not, again i ask you how the human right issue regarding race is different from the human rights issue regarding homosexuality.

I never said that the prosucution of MJ users is ok by me. I do not need you to twist my statements. My point, which i will say again, is that an issue to do with predetermined human consiousness is above an issue of human choice. You and me choose to use cannabis, people do not choose to be homosexual, therefore the rights of homosexuals is above our rights because its is beyond their control. Of course this logic does not apply to such predetermined conditions such as serial killers etc, but it would extend to such issues as disabiltly.

I never said we was in the 1950's. But for you to tell me that homosexual people never are subject to predujice for example gay bashing, that is also bullshit. I will also confess my orignal statement was based more on some of the reports ive recently seen on Fox News as part of a study i am doing on homosexuality in the media. The situation is unfortantly different in the U.S, in some parts of course in others the U.S promotes a tolerant society. I am not painting all americans with the same brush, but their are a section of society which share the views of Fox News and it is those i am refering to.

I should if im being completely coherrant with my viewpoint not mention if i am gay or straight, purely because my basis is that it does not matter if someone is homosexual their viewpoint is equally as valid and equally entitled to their rights. But however i am straight. But if i was gay it would not put me on the dark side of the force, it would make me equal to you. Perhaps this does not sit well with your superiouty complex but it is true that homosexual people are equal to you, the same as people from other races are equal to you, you are in fact an equal member of the human race, no better or worse than anyone. I make a noise about gay rights, because in my view, its one of the last human right issues left.

They can have Gay Clubs because it is an expression of their lifestyle, mj users are entitled to the same right, imo. Its not an issue to do with they're allowed to and we're not. Its to do with they protested and demanded their rights, the cannabis community in the uk recently has not. Are you a regualar attendee of protests? If not you really dont have a leg to stand on.

You say i make a lot of noise about nothing, i say human rights are not nothing. The worlds wider than your cannabis smoking rights.

[Sir Niall of Essex-sire]

To be pedantic Homosexuality is not normal. It is natural and of course not wrong to be homosexual but it is not normal. I have known alot of gay men in the uk and they feel they are generally accepted by society, why wouldn't they be and most people would not think they were gay unless told so anyway. What the majority of gay men don't like is the very small percentage of gay men that are too camp and openly shove their sexuality in peoples faces (so to speak) and gives rise to stereotyping. I am no prude but i hate to walk down a street and see people with their tongues down each others throat whether same or different sex. I believe people can do what they want behind closed doors as long as it does not involve children or animals. As for same sex marriages why not? i am not religious and stupidly there are laws making it an advantage for a couple to be married, suprising given the success rate.

Your right man, my bad. It is a minority. But as you point out the majority is not always right, apraphiet in south africa can be a good example of this. I do not mean to speak on the gay communities behalf, i am of course sincerly sorry if what i am saying does not represent them at all. I understand what you are saying about the whole having peoples lifestyles put in your face when your about your buisness. This is an interesting issue to face, and will probably be a big issue when it comes to coffeeshops in the U.K.

Im with you man with gay marriage. Its love we are talking about, love is love whether its between a man and a man or a man and a women. Every human has an entitlement to love and not be judged because of their love providing its between two consenting adults, for someone to say another human does not have the right to love says alot about that person for me. However i am of the same thinking of Crystal Middlemans because i believe ' Love,like a river,will cut a new path whenever it meets an obstacule.' So whoever tries to stop love, whoever it lies between, we not eventually win.

[beejun]

Sir nas, I still think you just moaning over nothing. I dont have anything gainst gay people as long as they stop crying for more right or marriage. Gay bashing happen to those fags because they showing off too much.
Cannabis is a plant and people go to jail for using or selling it and its wrong. And Fox news, like all mainstream media in usa and uk are brainwashing people. Good luck with your 'gay' studies btw.
Legalize!

[Toker70]

"showing off too much" what exactly is that?

[beejun]

"showing off too much" what exactly is that?

I wont answer that question as it might offend some people. Nevermind, im not here to talk about fags. We go to jail for growing or smoking a plant and its unfair. Id rather have my son smoking cannabis than being gay.

[Sir Niall of Essex-sire]

Sir nas, I still think you just moaning over nothing. I dont have anything gainst gay people as long as they stop crying for more right or marriage. Gay bashing happen to those fags because they showing off too much.
Cannabis is a plant and people go to jail for using or selling it and its wrong. And Fox news, like all mainstream media in usa and uk are brainwashing people. Good luck with your 'gay' studies btw.
Legalize!

Yea moaning or crying to be treated as equal people to everyone else is such a bad thing, in fact why has anyone else who ever treated different to anybody else over a pre-determined aspect of themselves ever moaned. Wouldnt it be great if we went back to the days of slaverly and when you could be killed for being a homosexual. As long we had a joint without being hassled it would all be fine....

Are you seriously suggesting that violence against homosexuals is a fault caused by the gay community itself? Jesus man thats low, thats the type of logic used to commit attrocites and justify racial attacks. It obviously has nothing to do with the fact that ignorent people, like yourself, have a problem with the way other people live and believe, usually due to some superourity complex, they have a right to hurt someone because they disagree with their lifestyle. To suggest that homosexuals bring on predijuce violence because they ' show off ' is so mind-numbingly stupid it almost beggars belief. So did black people in america bring on violence to themselves, because they showed off? Thats a very very dangerous logic you imply, a tyope of logic that has no place in a tolerant, peaceful and loving society.

Why dont you stop moaning over people being prosucuted because of using a plant? Just take your punishment, its your fault for showing off too much and flying to amsterdam. If you ever walk down the street wearing a legalize shirt, you should be beaten to within a inch of your life, because your showing off once again......

Of course prosucution for using cannabis is wrong, but claiming your rights are being down trodden while those who, just because they were born gay, are being beaten on the streets are not having their rights shat all over is plain stupidy. A right being dismissed in regards to a way a human being is born and pre-determend has precidence over a right of choice. There is no argument to that imo.

Fox news, like all mainstream media in usa and uk are brainwashing people.

No shit, im glad its by passed you and your views on homosexuality are logical well thought out fair and hummane.

Why is it you think that Gay people are not allowed to be wed? Is it because of religious teaching? As we all know Matthew 15:11 ' What goes into a mans mouth does not make him unclean.'

EDIT : thanks, im also optomistic about my gay studies, except if you are to rip into what i do, call it by its correct name. ' How the media presents and manipulates human rights.' study.

[beejun]

Ahahhah funny shit Sir nas.
I realy do not give a toss 'bout what you think of me. I do not feel superior, stop catching feeling man! Smoke a spliff, listen to some elton john and chill out!
all the best.

[Sir Niall of Essex-sire]

Ahahhah funny shit Sir nas.
I realy do not give a toss 'bout what you think of me. I do not feel superior, stop catching feeling man! Smoke a spliff, listen to some elton john and chill out!
all the best.

My comments were regarding the logic you apply to your fellow human beings, which is stupid, it was not calling you as an indivitual. Im sure your an intelligent human being, which in some ways makes the logic you imply more worrying than if you was a slack jawed hillbilly.

I believe but that you dont think superiour, but as you said

all mainstream media in usa and uk are brainwashing people

I hope that situation changes.

I will stick on the Elton John L.P, and maybe if im lucky hell invite me round to his house with a big pot of vaseline..... But i hope you've never enjoyed any form of entertainment created by a gay person, overwise you'd look a bit of a tit.

Same to you, sit down skin one up and have smoke. But lock your door because those gays are on a hunt to bum fuck all straight people, and now gays can marry, well the earth is going to fall into hell. The big JC ( Jesus ) will be looking at us shaking at his finger and saying ' how dare you allow two people to express their love.'

Peace.

[beejun]

Yeah ima skin up a spliff and listen to some sizzla.

[Sir Niall of Essex-sire]

Yeah ima skin up a spliff and listen to some sizzla.

Loading bowls with ya.......on a different wave length....hopefully love will conquer all.

[tastywaves]

Thank you and well put Sir Niall of Essex-sire and Spidergawd. Free the oppressed and pass the peace pipe.
Peace.

[DC]

Weed or gay people getting married?. Weed, cos sick people need it. Gay people aren't sick so don't need to get married. Weddings are a fukt up thing anyway and should be separated from all things financial, political and religious....if they were, anybody could do it without any hassle. Personally, I think while MDK is goin around the world by, and in the name of supposibly what's right and what's wrong and ultimately ..... just for money. Then there's a shitbucket full of other things needing sorted first. Obama was never gonna do it...none of them will. Poor people rarely do well in politics and when they do....they stop being poor. Did the colour of his skin confuse some of you guys?.