I have a little problem

Megarusso · Post by **Megarusso** » Sun 26th Jul 2009 08:12 pm

My problem guys and gals, is that i cant seem to handle papers. I have no problem inhaling deeply through pipes and bongs, but someone hands me a joint an on my first toke I start coughing like an 80yr old asthmatic, prompting much embarrassment.

So I was just wondering if anyone else has this problem, and if so what do you do? Or does anyone have any tips for me?

cantona7 · Post by **cantona7** » Sun 26th Jul 2009 09:11 pm

could be the tobacco in the joints if its not pure? maybe try a pure joint? expiriment with diff types of papers..unbleached, rice, hemp, etc. stay away from the over flavored juicy jays and clear cellulose papers though..both are bad imo. how are you hitting it? try taking small tokes/drags and not taking big hits at first.

Megarusso · Post by **Megarusso** » Mon 27th Jul 2009 04:46 pm

The tobacco might be contributing towards it, i think that it is most probably the combination of the papers and the tobacco.

I am just using plain old blue rizla, but i might try getting some of the rice paper you mentioned. Is it slightly smoother?

Boner · Post by **Boner** » Mon 27th Jul 2009 04:56 pm

Try silver rizla, another thing could be that the weed hasn't been flushed properly, after a few days toking in Amsterdam I find I get a sore throat and cough a lot, never happens at home as I know my weed is flushed properly.

turdhead · Post by **turdhead** » Mon 27th Jul 2009 06:15 pm

just get some Small Rizla Silvers

like Boner said

make a 1 skinner pure.

if too strong, mix with some tobbacco.

or even try the free herbal mix at the counter.

i prefer a spliff myself, not into the bong n pipe as much anymore

Uncle Ron · Post by **Uncle Ron** » Sun 2nd Aug 2009 05:44 am

First, when smoking joints, are they pure or mixed? Try both and choose the one that "bites" the least, probably mixed.
Second, what type of papers are used? Try Hemp-based papers.

Depending on the type of weed, you may cough regardless of what you use. I have nearly busted my lungs using a bong with ice water, so this may be a point to consider.
I avoid smoking joints because my throat burns, regardless of the type of papers or weed. What makes this even stranger is that I smoke cigarettes.

One last recommendation: when hitting a joint, take a small hit and let the smoke "rest" in your mouth for a moment before slowly inhaling. (your cheeks should slightly puff-out like a trumpet or sax player, just not so pronounced)

Enjoy the journey of finding what works best for you.
My recommendation: carry a small pipe

Iko · Post by **Iko** » Sun 2nd Aug 2009 06:13 am

IMO if your coffing on joints and not on bongs or pipes it is OBVIOUSLY the tobacco.
Simple deduction as i doubt your using tobacco in your bong or pipe ?
I know it is customery for many in Europe and The Mid east to mix there joints , i did it as a young teenager as that is how i was tought.
Think about it , your smoking an unfiltered ciggarette.
This is just the way I see it , I know as most of you are European I will be in a minority on this , i just think its crazy that anyone would go to amsterdam and pollute the greatest tasting weed in the world.

Megarusso · Post by **Megarusso** » Sun 2nd Aug 2009 07:29 pm

Thanks for all your advice guys, over the past week I have been experimenting with lots of different techniques. I have found that keeping it in my mouth to let it cool down is a very effective technique.

I also purchased a small wooden pipe (i know wood is not perfect, but it was only £1 so i couldn't resist) But it is good as it is easily concealable and easy to carry.

Finally I really don't like using tobacco either, but when smoking in company i am not always in control of the joints that are rolled. and i don't want to pass up all those lovely communal smokes that sometimes crop up at the most unexpected times

Uncle Ron · Post by **Uncle Ron** » Sun 2nd Aug 2009 08:35 pm

Iko has a valid point about mixed joints, especially for those who do not smoke cigarettes.
Let me offer you another piece of advice - look into buying a stone. A stone I had many years ago worked for me when smoking joints. The stone was cylindrical (approximately 8cm diameter x 1.5cm wide) and had holes on opposite ends. I think this type of handy/portable device might work for you.

Peace

doobydave · Post by **doobydave** » Sun 2nd Aug 2009 10:03 pm

If tobacco/paper smoking is really that unpleasant for you, then don't fight it - just smoke pure and consider yourself lucky you haven't got addicted to the worlds no.1 addictive killing substance.

Edit - Pull every last stick/twig out of the mix. These will irritate your throat.

Megarusso · Post by **Megarusso** » Sun 2nd Aug 2009 10:07 pm

Is a Stone a bit like a Chillum?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chillum_(pipe)

I am actually heading to nepal in nov and hopefully will be partaking in some Chillum smoking with the local holy men.

I does sound like a good solution to an annoying problem

Uncle Ron · Post by **Uncle Ron** » Mon 3rd Aug 2009 12:06 am

No, not a Chillum.
The best way I can describe the Stone is that it resembles a small, round, nearly flat stone, slightly concave on top and bottom, with a hole drilled through the thick ends. Stick a joint in one end and hit on the other.
I have searched a little on the net and haven't found anything that resembles what I am describing. The Stone may have been a specialty item, made and sold in limited quantities by Deadheads on tour, I'm not sure. I know it has been more than 25 years since I have used the Stone.
Peace

Pauli Wallnuts · Post by **Pauli Wallnuts** » Mon 3rd Aug 2009 12:16 am

try smoking golds, they are just as thin as rizla silver but dont contain chlorine, every cs has them available for free

naismith · Post by **naismith** » Thu 6th Aug 2009 02:33 am

Just a thought, try cutting the glue off the paper.

naismith

TwoCanucks · Post by **TwoCanucks** » Thu 6th Aug 2009 02:41 am

I think a nice slow haul on a cellulose will cure all that ails ya!