Kimble wrote: Mon 2nd Jun 2025 08:49 am
Just a quick note on the whole "shake" discussion: I never buy by the gram. I always ask to see the actual buds, pick the nicest ones, and then pay for whatever weight they come to.
As for the Cali vs Holland debate – I’ll keep it short. Cali doesn’t equal quality, just like “France” doesn’t automatically mean a good wine. It’s always the grower that makes the difference.
I tend to do the same. I’ll have that bud please!!
Absolutely right, re Cali/Dutch/UK. I only vape, I might have the occasional joint with friends, but generally I’m looking for the right terps for me. There is an awful lot of Lemon Cherry Gelato in Amsterdam. The slightly sad thing for me this trip is that everyone has the same Cali stuff. Really no interesting flower on the Cali side I fancied at all. Very, very Skittles/Gelato based. And sure. It’s good, tastes great. Just want something a bit more interesting that you can’t pretty much, with a bit of research, get at home. So many good genetics in the US. Best bit I think I’ve ever had was a RYTHM White Durban in Vermont. Not candy, not Skittles, dank, savoury, earthy, burning-plastic, huff on a petrol nozzle. Proper uplifting, do anything kinda weed.
Everyone stocks pretty much the same two brands in Amsterdam. Using the wine analogy, it’s like an off-license only stocking wine from 2 vinyards. You argue? Ask for some different kind of wine, and they get all arsey with you, if they weren’t already arsey.
Budtenders in the Netherlands. It’s a whole other topic.
The only Tenco I’ve actually enjoyed is their Cheesebanger ( The Zushis do Skittles different and they are fun too, granted) For me, that Cheesebanger is one of the highlights of my year. No idea if it’s even Cheese. It’s a good Skunk cross Headbanger apparently, no idea. It’s very nice, savoury, gassy. Whatever it is. I had that already at home, and a couple of the Wiztrees bits, which if I’m honest I’m a bit meh about. Kinda don’t see what the fuss is about with their stuff.
The only conclusion I can come to is that good UK grown is in many cases better than or on a par with Dutch, although if you hunt it out, the freshness of the Dutch is impressive. A lot of the Cali is dry and pretty old. Shame it’s sealed in a jar.
It’s much like buying a top-flight US IPA, like Treehouse, or Monkish, and getting it shipped to the UK. 60 days after it’s been canned, the terpines in the hops start to fade. Cannabis and hops are closely related. Same thing happens with both plants.
That’s why Rosin is exciting to me. Literally trapping those terps. But even then, shipping jars from the States. You are going to lose freshness. Not in the same way. Hash matures. Changes over time.
Flower just dies. Becomes cardboard.
If you are getting a 6 month old Wizard Trees jar. You are not getting it at it’s best. But you pay more in Dam for it than a really great Dutch, which was harvested 30 days ago.
I know what I’m looking for.
I think Rosin is starting to change the game. Very interesting what’s going on there. A little to rich for my blood, both in price and how stoned I want to be.
Had a very bad experience with a hot dab about 10 years ago and since then I’ve been very wary.